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Graham Linehan on the chapter about him in Jon Ronson's new book

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impossibletoday · 29/08/2026 21:50

Graham Linehan on Jon Ronson's new book

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology. An interesting read.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology

His book chapter about me stands as an indictment of him and the cowardly social class of people who refuse to confront uncomfortable truths

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

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Mycatisfab · 18/09/2026 09:23

Has this backfired on Jon Ronson or is he laughing all the way to the bank with the extra publicity

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/09/2026 08:37

I hate the word retard.

Meanwhile....
Men can't be women.
Girls can't be boys.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/09/2026 08:23

Shedmistress · 18/09/2026 08:10

You seem ever so slightly obsessed with him.

TPA is obsessed with this entire board. I would say it's odd but they're not the first TRA who just can't stay away despite their insistence on how awful FWR and everyone in it is

Shedmistress · 18/09/2026 08:10

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 18/09/2026 00:32

Linehan just called the disabled woman who mocked Ed Sheeran a "retard".

That's who he is.

You seem ever so slightly obsessed with him.

Igneococcus · 18/09/2026 07:55

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2026 07:31

'Miss, Miss, he used a bad word, Miss!'

And still, men cannot become women.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2026 07:31

'Miss, Miss, he used a bad word, Miss!'

BackToLurk · 18/09/2026 06:43

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 18/09/2026 00:32

Linehan just called the disabled woman who mocked Ed Sheeran a "retard".

That's who he is.

It’s a horrible word. I hate it used as an insult. What relevance is that to Jon Ronson’s book?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 18/09/2026 06:01

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 18/09/2026 00:32

Linehan just called the disabled woman who mocked Ed Sheeran a "retard".

That's who he is.

He mocked someone who mocked someone, shocker, without any details to go, so what?🤪

MyAmpleSheep · 18/09/2026 01:55

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 18/09/2026 00:32

Linehan just called the disabled woman who mocked Ed Sheeran a "retard".

That's who he is.

Why is it ok to mock Ed Sheeran?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 18/09/2026 00:32

Linehan just called the disabled woman who mocked Ed Sheeran a "retard".

That's who he is.

JennyShaw · 17/09/2026 22:15

AstonCanKissMyArse · 09/09/2026 21:16

Neither Linehan, nor anyone here has said that "transwomen are evil murderers who seek out and destroy anyone who has a different opinion from them"

But when reporting on a story, the omission of facts like that is relevant. Its used by people like Ronson to twist the story into a certain light. Factual reports of TW doing awful things shouldn't be buried so as not to damage the trans cause. Especially not in cases like this where the real story is about males who won't take no for an answer ruining something that was set up for women, by women.

Don't you even think those women's murders are worth a mention?

You sound just like Ronson: that the real problem isn't evil deeds, its the talking about them that's the really bad part.

ETA the worst thing about male violence against women is it makes men look bad.

Edited

"the real story is about males who won't take no for an answer ruining something that was set up for women, by women"

What are you referring to here, Michfest or the motorcycle club?

IwantToRetire · 13/09/2026 19:27

For anyone interested C4 news did a short interview with Ronson who just looked inane, not helped by being interviewed by the bombastic Guru-Murthy who seemed strangely placatory.

Anyhow, they obviously both thought there were wonderful and were so entranced with themselves that there is a longer interview on Ways to Change the World podcast.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/09/2026 08:53

PerkyBlueZebra · 13/09/2026 08:09

Fair comment

He's either reflecting the 4chan / edgelord culture he's become immersed in over the last 5 years or so, or has the judgment of a 13-year-old girl.

I bloody love this gif

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/09/2026 08:18

Seems to be enough teenage snit for everyone. 🥱

PerkyBlueZebra · 13/09/2026 08:09

DistanceCall · 04/09/2026 21:35

My 13-year-old niece sometimes will say that someone has "NPC energy". She is neither a gamer nor, I assure you, a repilled incel.

Fair comment

He's either reflecting the 4chan / edgelord culture he's become immersed in over the last 5 years or so, or has the judgment of a 13-year-old girl.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2026 11:39

DrBlackbird · 09/09/2026 23:45

I get why TRAs would come on these threads to slag everyone off. That’s understandable.

But my god it is beyond tedious how the virtuous can’t-you-just-be-nice women come here to post for the dopamine thrill of feeling outraged righteousness based on non existent comprehension skills. The constant misrepresentation by declaring that everyone on FWR hates trans people, that all trans are violent pedophiles, and that we want to deprive trans people of their rights.

And never once answering or engaging with the hard questions. It’s this last bit I don’t understand. If you feel secure in your position, then argue for it. Never happens. Almost never.

They aren’t capable because they know it’s unarguable.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2026 11:38

napody · 08/09/2026 14:53

Wow, the guardian have slated it as all over the place and possibly more about Ronson's own ego and settling a score with Linehan than any kind of logical exploration of anything.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/sep/08/the-castle-by-jon-ronson-review-bizarre-tales-of-modern-masculinity

That must have burned a bit.

AlonsoMosley · 10/09/2026 02:24

Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/09/2026 16:31

Personally I think the bored ennui of privileged ppl like Ronson is one of the many reasons we are where we are with so mang thibgs . All this caring about things darling! So frightfully bourgeoise

Actually - I think he just trying to protect his naice middle class job that has prestige and will get the kids along well in life.

In other words, the only moral or ethical concern Ronson had is ... Ronson.

DrBlackbird · 09/09/2026 23:45

I get why TRAs would come on these threads to slag everyone off. That’s understandable.

But my god it is beyond tedious how the virtuous can’t-you-just-be-nice women come here to post for the dopamine thrill of feeling outraged righteousness based on non existent comprehension skills. The constant misrepresentation by declaring that everyone on FWR hates trans people, that all trans are violent pedophiles, and that we want to deprive trans people of their rights.

And never once answering or engaging with the hard questions. It’s this last bit I don’t understand. If you feel secure in your position, then argue for it. Never happens. Almost never.

AstonCanKissMyArse · 09/09/2026 21:16

JennyShaw · 07/09/2026 12:31

I don't contribute much to Mumsnet. I don't bother with opinions. People can have any opinions they like. When somebody says something that is factually untrue then I think it's important to point it out. That's what a forum is for.

It's not a "gleeful gotcha". If you want to say than transwomen are evil murderers who seek out and destroy anyone who has a different opinion from them that's fine, but if you twist reality to fit your simplistic view then I'm going to call you out.

Graham Linehan used the deaths of two women and a man to stir up hatred against a group of people. That's despicable. Graham Linehan gets all his information from social media. That's pathetic. Jon Ronson talks to people, interviews people, checks his facts.

Neither Linehan, nor anyone here has said that "transwomen are evil murderers who seek out and destroy anyone who has a different opinion from them"

But when reporting on a story, the omission of facts like that is relevant. Its used by people like Ronson to twist the story into a certain light. Factual reports of TW doing awful things shouldn't be buried so as not to damage the trans cause. Especially not in cases like this where the real story is about males who won't take no for an answer ruining something that was set up for women, by women.

Don't you even think those women's murders are worth a mention?

You sound just like Ronson: that the real problem isn't evil deeds, its the talking about them that's the really bad part.

ETA the worst thing about male violence against women is it makes men look bad.

napody · 08/09/2026 19:25

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/09/2026 16:16

Well that’s an interesting review

Yep. The part about the six hours of video interview content being skimmed over was interesting. Surely people will be wondering what Graham was actually saying, what points he was making during that time. If it was real research one could request a transcript, perhaps. But as it's possibly more just a vehicle to kick a bloke when he's down, no need.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/09/2026 16:16

Well that’s an interesting review

Datun · 07/09/2026 13:11

JennyShaw · 07/09/2026 12:31

I don't contribute much to Mumsnet. I don't bother with opinions. People can have any opinions they like. When somebody says something that is factually untrue then I think it's important to point it out. That's what a forum is for.

It's not a "gleeful gotcha". If you want to say than transwomen are evil murderers who seek out and destroy anyone who has a different opinion from them that's fine, but if you twist reality to fit your simplistic view then I'm going to call you out.

Graham Linehan used the deaths of two women and a man to stir up hatred against a group of people. That's despicable. Graham Linehan gets all his information from social media. That's pathetic. Jon Ronson talks to people, interviews people, checks his facts.

Your protests that you don't use gotchas sounds a little hollow when you're suggesting that the brutal murder of three people has been used as anything other than asserting that the man who murdered them wasn't a lesbian.

And criticising Ronson for being quite unable to agree.

But hey, good to know that you're not twisting reality or anything.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 07/09/2026 12:55

JennyShaw · 07/09/2026 12:31

I don't contribute much to Mumsnet. I don't bother with opinions. People can have any opinions they like. When somebody says something that is factually untrue then I think it's important to point it out. That's what a forum is for.

It's not a "gleeful gotcha". If you want to say than transwomen are evil murderers who seek out and destroy anyone who has a different opinion from them that's fine, but if you twist reality to fit your simplistic view then I'm going to call you out.

Graham Linehan used the deaths of two women and a man to stir up hatred against a group of people. That's despicable. Graham Linehan gets all his information from social media. That's pathetic. Jon Ronson talks to people, interviews people, checks his facts.

Yeah he absolutely didn't do that though

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