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Graham Linehan on the chapter about him in Jon Ronson's new book

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impossibletoday · 29/08/2026 21:50

Graham Linehan on Jon Ronson's new book

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology. An interesting read.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology

His book chapter about me stands as an indictment of him and the cowardly social class of people who refuse to confront uncomfortable truths

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

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YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:48

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:43

The near 1000 positive comments to Linehan’s article begs to differ. Could you post up a “dickhead” comment from Graham that you disagree with, so we are clear what you’re referring to?

By the way Trump partly won, because he was able to mock Kamala Harris over her They/Thems …. So we have the indignity of Trump because of pandering to trans nonsense, and pretending we all don’t know a man can’t be a woman.

If you like him and agree with him on what he says and how he says it, you're free to do so. I'm not taking that away from you.

borntobequiet · 30/08/2026 11:48

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

he may have changed his views regarding abortion

You could have used pretty much probably, like another speculative poster.

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:43

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:32

I don't think being a dickhead online helps anyone and especially is not particularly effective in bringing anyone round to your point of view. Whatever the topic.

The near 1000 positive comments to Linehan’s article begs to differ. Could you post up a “dickhead” comment from Graham that you disagree with, so we are clear what you’re referring to?

By the way Trump partly won, because he was able to mock Kamala Harris over her They/Thems …. So we have the indignity of Trump because of pandering to trans nonsense, and pretending we all don’t know a man can’t be a woman.

Shedmistress · 30/08/2026 11:42

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:27

He has very much aligned himself with US conservatives in recent times, reposting things about "degenerates" etc. Perhaps it's unfair of me to assume a complete ideological shift, but he has radically changed his views on Trump, Gamergate, and migration/Islam, so who knows.

This is all utterly ludicrious. He moved to the UK because of the threats and constant harassment in the UK. Mainly from people who self ID as 'On The Left'.

I can bet that anyone who even flies to the USA has engaged with 10 'conservatives' before you leave the airport.

SisterTeatime · 30/08/2026 11:38

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 10:09

Never heard of him but Linehan’s article on him in the Telegraphy was riveting reading. The comments all support Linehan. They are exceedingly complementary.

Yes, the comments are interesting. Quite good to see that Jon Ronson has drawn more attention to Linehan’s tenacity and immense self-sacrifice.

I never thought highly of Ronson, but initially it was only because he’s so self-satisfied. His cowardice and dishonesty on this issue really turned me against him. He’s done himself no favours with this spiteful attack on a man whose talent and character dwarfs his own. Graham Linehan isn’t perfect, who is? But he’s stood up for the rights of women
and children when others wouldn’t.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 11:38

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:27

He has very much aligned himself with US conservatives in recent times, reposting things about "degenerates" etc. Perhaps it's unfair of me to assume a complete ideological shift, but he has radically changed his views on Trump, Gamergate, and migration/Islam, so who knows.

'OK you've rumbled me. I just thought I'd throw some random mud around and see what sticks'

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:37

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 11:33

The US conservative's are the ones fighting back against the gender idiots, so it stands to reason Glinner who is also fighting against the batshittery will often say things that 'align' with the US conservatives position.

That doesn't mean he himself is now a US conservative and agrees with any of the other US conservative stands.
He's a man of principle, he doesn't wax and wane to suit, like those he's calling out as cowards.

You are aware, I assume, of what 'NPC' means in terms of alt-right rhetoric.

I see Graham using this phrase a lot, and either he is entirely unaware of the wider semiotics there (which I find hard to believe for someone so very online and especially in gamer spaces) or he is comfortable with people making whatever assumptions they may choose to about someone using the term in 2026.

NB I haven't said whether I agree or disagree with Graham's views on this thread. And it is possible to agree with someone's views whilst also thinking they are detrimental to the cause.

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:35

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 11:23

No, it was after, and IIRC, during the incredibly long active legal proceedings.

Rivers was not a founder of Camp Trans; not even Graham is claiming that.

Graham's criticism is that Rivers, a key figure in Camp Trans, murdered Michfest attendees, and it's disgusting that Ronson didn't cover that.

There's no evidence to support claims that Rivers was an organiser of the event, a key figure, or even to confirm which years they attended.

The only evidence of their involvement in Camp Trans is a report of a 2000 demonstration featuring Rivers.

There's no evidence that supports the claim the victims ever attended camp trans.

I mean, if there is evidence to back up his claims, Graham should present it. Expecting Ronson to report a sequence of events the way Graham feels it should be reported, and to unearth evidence Graham suspects exists but is too lazy to dig up himself, is ludicrous.

Ronson knew “Karen” White was a double rapist, knew evil White was in a female prison and knew White tried to rape women in the prison. He disagreed with Linehan pointing out those facts with a photo of White.

Now, um, let me see, who’s the defender of rapists and who is the defender of women. Perhaps you could help me out on this tricky conundrum…

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 11:33

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:27

He has very much aligned himself with US conservatives in recent times, reposting things about "degenerates" etc. Perhaps it's unfair of me to assume a complete ideological shift, but he has radically changed his views on Trump, Gamergate, and migration/Islam, so who knows.

The US conservative's are the ones fighting back against the gender idiots, so it stands to reason Glinner who is also fighting against the batshittery will often say things that 'align' with the US conservatives position.

That doesn't mean he himself is now a US conservative and agrees with any of the other US conservative stands.
He's a man of principle, he doesn't wax and wane to suit, like those he's calling out as cowards.

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:32

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:29

What do you think of the trans activists losing their shirts every day at JK Rowling ? Death threats, rape threats, vile abuse…

I don't think being a dickhead online helps anyone and especially is not particularly effective in bringing anyone round to your point of view. Whatever the topic.

CountFucula · 30/08/2026 11:29

Jon Ronson cares about:
book sales
book tours
his own standing in the liberal elite
appearing on podcasts
the truth

(in that order)

Jon Ronson does not care about:
women
his friends

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:29

Theeyeballsinthesky · 30/08/2026 11:19

He's allowed to have a go at women who disagree with him for goodness sake!

I know I have a go at women on here who disagree with me

what is this mad idea that somehow he should be nice and polite and dignified about all of this??

There's having a go and there's how he behaves with Josie Long, Aisling Bea, Cariad Lloyd etc.

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:29

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

What do you think of the trans activists losing their shirts every day at JK Rowling ? Death threats, rape threats, vile abuse…

SpringCalling · 30/08/2026 11:28

Datun · 30/08/2026 08:32

Ronson has argued in his book that the friendship became strained because Linehan was consumed with anger over the transgender debate, and lost all “polite, mannered civility” as he campaigned against gender ideology online.

What an indictment. Even using the concept of 'loss of manners' is so telling.

It's the bloody Bananarama argument again. It's not what he said, it's the way he said it.

From those two articles Ronson was blaming Linehan for his own reaction and allowing only that to negate his argument! Never mind the rapist attacking incarcerated women, or the psychopath killing Mitchfest lesbians. He's wringing his bloody hands over Graham's rage.

No one will fail to understand how numerous people do not want to put their head above the parapet for fear of their career, friends, status.

But this is different. This is blaming somebody else for doing exactly that. And getting all fucking prissy about it because it was messy for Linehan.

edited ad, I'm wondering why I'm finding it so infuriating.

I think because there's a massive element of Jesus wept man, you lost everything for the sake of women's rights, what the fuck is wrong with you??

it's barely concealed. In fact, I'm pretty certainly he doesn't even notice how that runs through it like a stick of rock.

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This. Now you’ve said it I cannot unsee it. Of course - how would a man possibly understand another effectively blowing up their life for women’s rights?

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:27

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 11:23

you think Graham Linehan may be anti abortion now?

you sound nuts, do you realise that?

He has very much aligned himself with US conservatives in recent times, reposting things about "degenerates" etc. Perhaps it's unfair of me to assume a complete ideological shift, but he has radically changed his views on Trump, Gamergate, and migration/Islam, so who knows.

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:27

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

Goodness me the amount of made up stuff on here. Did you ever wonder why his satire on the Irish Catholic Church was so successful, why it wasn’t something that could be produced in Ireland, and why its main actor - the late, brave, and brilliant Dermot Morgan was hired for the role and got in so much trouble in Ireland and was forever at risk of no employment. RTE (=BBC) were particularly egregious. They are also still cowards.

Men of Linehan’s vintage knows exactly the price Irish women had to pay for Irish conservative views, and why that makes him an advocate for women and children.

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:25

Datun · 30/08/2026 11:15

Undignified

I mean in the sense that it doesn't do the GC cause any favours to have one of the most prominent voices in it spending ten hours a day on Twitter publically shitting his pants. This is how the "you're all cranks obsessed with genitals" views are born.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 11:25

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

I spend a lot of time on here having a go at women who don't agree with me, all of the handmaidens, the omnicause 'feminist's, the Pro Pally's etc. Having a go at women doesn't in itself make you a misogynist, not if the women you're having a go at are talking a load of bollocks.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 11:23

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

you think Graham Linehan may be anti abortion now?

you sound nuts, do you realise that?

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 11:23

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 10:56

So to be clear, you're saying that the piece that Glinner is referring to was written by Ronson years before the founder of camp trans committed the sicken slaughter of a family of 3.
So Glinner criticising Ronson for not mentioning it is unfair because at the time Ronson wrote the piece the psychotic man hadn't slaughtered anyone yet.

No, it was after, and IIRC, during the incredibly long active legal proceedings.

Rivers was not a founder of Camp Trans; not even Graham is claiming that.

Graham's criticism is that Rivers, a key figure in Camp Trans, murdered Michfest attendees, and it's disgusting that Ronson didn't cover that.

There's no evidence to support claims that Rivers was an organiser of the event, a key figure, or even to confirm which years they attended.

The only evidence of their involvement in Camp Trans is a report of a 2000 demonstration featuring Rivers.

There's no evidence that supports the claim the victims ever attended camp trans.

I mean, if there is evidence to back up his claims, Graham should present it. Expecting Ronson to report a sequence of events the way Graham feels it should be reported, and to unearth evidence Graham suspects exists but is too lazy to dig up himself, is ludicrous.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 30/08/2026 11:21

Just read the article, just hits the mark so well. Ronson and his ilk continue to practice plausible deniability as the toxicity of this period curdles now, but the worst thing is this group's lack of basic humanity. They were genuinely ok for untold numbers of their peers to be hung out to dry, lose everything.
And not even for a genuine belief, but for a herd mentality.
It meant more for Ronson to be at the heart of the "in-crowd" than to reflect on what that in-crowd believed in, proposed happen, and it's damning power over individuals.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 30/08/2026 11:19

He's allowed to have a go at women who disagree with him for goodness sake!

I know I have a go at women on here who disagree with me

what is this mad idea that somehow he should be nice and polite and dignified about all of this??

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:17

BEAchDays2 · 30/08/2026 07:39

Does anyone know what sort of causes for women’s rights Graham fights for outside the trans debate?

He was involved in Repeal The Eighth, though given his alignment with more conservative views these days he may have changed his views regarding abortion.

He does spend an awful lot of time having a go at women for not agreeing with him on social media, though, which doesn't seem especially positive.

MarieDeGournay · 30/08/2026 11:17

JennyShaw · 30/08/2026 10:00

There is no evidence that the two murdered women had been to Michfest, let alone were regulars there. Jon Ronson may not have known about these murders, or he may have looked into them and realised that it had very little if anything to do with Michfest.

People are trying to create a story that a transwoman murdered two attendees of Michfest, because they were attendees of Michfest. A transwoman angry with biological/cis women because he/she had been denied entry to a women's only space. The reality is that the murderer knew the murdered women as friends, and the dispute was about a motorcycle club that they were all part of.

There is some doubt about whether or not Charlotte Reed and Patricia Wright RIP were 'regulars' at Michfest, and whether or not Dana Rivers linked them in his mind to his exclusion from that women-only event.

He may have used the motorcycle club they belonged to as a way to hunt down his prey,

The fact remains that they, and their teenage son, were brutally murdered - Reed was stabbed nearly 50 times - and the man who killed them is serving out his life sentence in a women's prison.

Jon Ronson may not have known about these murders, or he may have looked into them and realised that it had very little if anything to do with Michfest.
It would be surprising for somebody with Ronson's interests to NOT be aware of these murders, and that a trans-IDing man had killed a lesbian couple and their son, and that he was tried, and imprisoned as a woman.

The alleged Michfest connection was just one strand of this example of male violence against women, it didn't define it.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 30/08/2026 11:17

Datun · 30/08/2026 11:15

Undignified

Undignified!!! The horror!!

how dare a man who lost everything and had to endure the endless celebrations of those who had caused that loser and see them venerated by ppl he had thought were his friends be undignified!