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Graham Linehan on the chapter about him in Jon Ronson's new book

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impossibletoday · 29/08/2026 21:50

Graham Linehan on Jon Ronson's new book

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology. An interesting read.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

My ex-friend Jon Ronson may be a case study in the corrupting toxicity of trans ideology

His book chapter about me stands as an indictment of him and the cowardly social class of people who refuse to confront uncomfortable truths

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/29278d258cf0921b

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PencilsInSpace · 30/08/2026 12:29

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 12:20

lol whoops

HmmHmm

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:28

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:25

man alive. have you ever considered just stating what you think?

I've just told you what I think: that Wikipedia shouldn't be your only source, but for linguistic phenomena too new to be yet documented much elsewhere and where changes can outpace studies, it can be a good starting point for research.

Hope that helps you, because it sounds like you don't know much about how the internet affects language and coded communication and it's a really fascinating area.

Datun · 30/08/2026 12:28

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:25

I mean in the sense that it doesn't do the GC cause any favours to have one of the most prominent voices in it spending ten hours a day on Twitter publically shitting his pants. This is how the "you're all cranks obsessed with genitals" views are born.

Christ, that should be immortalised somewhere - 'it doesn't do your cause any good to have undignified raging people supporting it!'

Wrongggg!!

The Supreme Court, the £25 grand awarded to Graham Linehan and the public apology, would beg to differ.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:27

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:26

Aww.

i'm going to suggest to you that if you can't explain something it's because you don't really understand it

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:26

let me get you started

'here are my views on graham linehan and the point i joined this thread to make:'

and then you say stuff

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:26

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:23

and using terms you personally disagree with makes him a bad person because...?

c'mon, you're really sure you're right. this should be super easy to explain

Aww.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:25

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:22

It's a reasonably good starting point for internet linguistics surprisingly, as you can follow the sources and do your own research. KnowYourMeme can be useful but isn't great at putting things into context.

If you're interested in that kind of thing the Garbage Day newsletter is pretty good at tracking how the online world changes language, especially the phenomenon of everyday language being affected by content moderation, though it's quite US focused.

man alive. have you ever considered just stating what you think?

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:25

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 12:22

So the answer is no, you are unable to back up claiming he’s making “dickhead” comments. While at the same time pretending that you “might” agree with some of his comments, just shit stirring then.

This whole discussion is about two men stirring up shit about each other. Each one thinking the other is making dickhead comments but for wildly different reasons. Twas ever thus.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:23

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:18

Maybe spend five minutes reading the paper I linked to and you might get why certain assumptions might be made about the views someone using it.

Again, anyone even slightly online who says they aren't aware that there are certain phrases, especially used on X, that are massive dog-whistles is either not that observant or being massively disingenuous. If it's the former, you might want to realise that all those accounts called xxStopTheBoats1488xx might be being a little bit sarcastic when they talk about "cultural enrichment" or "religion of peace", y'know?

Also, if you know where my other sock with raccoons on it is, please do tell.

and using terms you personally disagree with makes him a bad person because...?

c'mon, you're really sure you're right. this should be super easy to explain

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 12:22

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:48

If you like him and agree with him on what he says and how he says it, you're free to do so. I'm not taking that away from you.

So the answer is no, you are unable to back up claiming he’s making “dickhead” comments. While at the same time pretending that you “might” agree with some of his comments, just shit stirring then.

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:22

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 12:18

Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. 😂😂

It's a reasonably good starting point for internet linguistics surprisingly, as you can follow the sources and do your own research. KnowYourMeme can be useful but isn't great at putting things into context.

If you're interested in that kind of thing the Garbage Day newsletter is pretty good at tracking how the online world changes language, especially the phenomenon of everyday language being affected by content moderation, though it's quite US focused.

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 12:20

PencilsInSpace · 30/08/2026 12:00

'Kara Dansky'?

Hmm

lol whoops

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 12:19

Cailin66 · 30/08/2026 11:35

Ronson knew “Karen” White was a double rapist, knew evil White was in a female prison and knew White tried to rape women in the prison. He disagreed with Linehan pointing out those facts with a photo of White.

Now, um, let me see, who’s the defender of rapists and who is the defender of women. Perhaps you could help me out on this tricky conundrum…

You want to pivot?

But first, it's worth agreeing that Graham's view of River's and their victims' link to camp trans is unsubstantiated by any evidence and is not even a view shared by the gender critical journalists who covered the case.

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:18

Maybe spend five minutes reading the paper I linked to and you might get why certain assumptions might be made about the views someone using it.

Again, anyone even slightly online who says they aren't aware that there are certain phrases, especially used on X, that are massive dog-whistles is either not that observant or being massively disingenuous. If it's the former, you might want to realise that all those accounts called xxStopTheBoats1488xx might be being a little bit sarcastic when they talk about "cultural enrichment" or "religion of peace", y'know?

Also, if you know where my other sock with raccoons on it is, please do tell.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 12:18

Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. 😂😂

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 12:16

Shedmistress · 30/08/2026 11:56

Graham is a gamer, incidently. If 'playing various video games' makes you a 'gamer'.

Where does he find the time, he apparently spends at least 10 hours a day on twitter having a go at people in an 'undignified' fashion.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 12:12

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:10

Well, you can look at the Wikipedia page on it for a start. Internet is good for helping you look up terms you don't know. This board alone is full of shibboleths that are meaningless to those not already entrenched in GC discussion.

But if you're going to be disingenuous and pretend that something that's been widely discussed enough to have academic papers written about it as a sociolinguistic phenomenon being mentioned but not spelt out for you is some form of sly "TRA rhetoric", then my time is probably better spent pairing my clean socks.

yep. got all that.

now explain to me why using the term makes him a bad person

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 12:10

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 11:58

cor, there's a whole lot of bananarama going on here

'he used a term some people all right thinkers disagree with also use. you know what that means, don't you? don't you?'

actually I don't. why don't you just actually say what you mean?

Well, you can look at the Wikipedia page on it for a start. Internet is good for helping you look up terms you don't know. This board alone is full of shibboleths that are meaningless to those not already entrenched in GC discussion.

But if you're going to be disingenuous and pretend that something that's been widely discussed enough to have academic papers written about it as a sociolinguistic phenomenon being mentioned but not spelt out for you is some form of sly "TRA rhetoric", then my time is probably better spent pairing my clean socks.

CrossPurposes · 30/08/2026 12:08

"posting graphic nudes of people he claims are kids" - please elucidate on this accusation @TransParentlyAnnoyed if you could

Shedmistress · 30/08/2026 12:01

PencilsInSpace · 30/08/2026 12:00

'Kara Dansky'?

Hmm

Fully sure Kara Dansky did not murder 2 lesbians and their son.

PencilsInSpace · 30/08/2026 12:00

PerkyBlueZebra · 30/08/2026 10:41

Is it?

There's no documented link between Dansky's murders and camp trans, no evidence she met her victims there or that they even attended.

In the court case, the prosecutors never mentioned Michfest and said the motive was to do with gang-related issues.

That's what Jon put in the notes section for the chapter and is also the identical position Kara Dansky now takes post-trial.

Ronson wrote a piece about camp trans.

Decades later, one of the organisers of camp trans committed a heinous murder.

Graham claims that the victims were Michfest regulars. There is zero evidence they ever attended.

'Kara Dansky'?

Hmm
BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/08/2026 11:58

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:37

You are aware, I assume, of what 'NPC' means in terms of alt-right rhetoric.

I see Graham using this phrase a lot, and either he is entirely unaware of the wider semiotics there (which I find hard to believe for someone so very online and especially in gamer spaces) or he is comfortable with people making whatever assumptions they may choose to about someone using the term in 2026.

NB I haven't said whether I agree or disagree with Graham's views on this thread. And it is possible to agree with someone's views whilst also thinking they are detrimental to the cause.

cor, there's a whole lot of bananarama going on here

'he used a term some people all right thinkers disagree with also use. you know what that means, don't you? don't you?'

actually I don't. why don't you just actually say what you mean?

Soontobe60 · 30/08/2026 11:56

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Your lies are interesting. But still lies.

Shedmistress · 30/08/2026 11:56

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 11:51

I've see the term NPC used on this site, generally by poster who are claiming that is what women are being reduced to in reality because they right's have been taken off them in favour of pandering to the men's right movement.
I might consider using to describe how females have become nothing more that a footnote in their own cause, feminism.
It's a term that came from the gamer world but has escaped out into the wild and used often outside a 'gamer' context.
The fact that Glinner is using it could just show how much a part of the cultural lexicon it has become.
Just because those on the 'altright', whatever that is, use it doesn't mean that everyone who uses it is 'altright'. None of the posts where it has been used on these threads gave me the impression they were coming from 'altright' posters.

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Graham is a gamer, incidently. If 'playing various video games' makes you a 'gamer'.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/08/2026 11:51

YouHaveAnArse · 30/08/2026 11:37

You are aware, I assume, of what 'NPC' means in terms of alt-right rhetoric.

I see Graham using this phrase a lot, and either he is entirely unaware of the wider semiotics there (which I find hard to believe for someone so very online and especially in gamer spaces) or he is comfortable with people making whatever assumptions they may choose to about someone using the term in 2026.

NB I haven't said whether I agree or disagree with Graham's views on this thread. And it is possible to agree with someone's views whilst also thinking they are detrimental to the cause.

I've see the term NPC used on this site, generally by poster who are claiming that is what women are being reduced to in reality because they right's have been taken off them in favour of pandering to the men's right movement.
I might consider using to describe how females have become nothing more that a footnote in their own cause, feminism.
It's a term that came from the gamer world but has escaped out into the wild and used often outside a 'gamer' context.
The fact that Glinner is using it could just show how much a part of the cultural lexicon it has become.
Just because those on the 'altright', whatever that is, use it doesn't mean that everyone who uses it is 'altright'. None of the posts where it has been used on these threads gave me the impression they were coming from 'altright' posters.