Today I discovered that Hinge can delete your account if as a straight male you complain about males appearing in your dating queue…

Large numbers of straight and bi people date trans people. Loads of people won't enter a space they think is prejudice towards trans people despite not being trans. The app is catering to its user base who wants trans people on the app.

So no filters, beyond location, on any sites? Why filter for some things and not others? What is different about ‘sex’?

How do you know what other people would find transphobic? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions throughout this thread?

Your argument up to now was that ‘apps are just responding to what their users want’. The overwhelming majority of users of hinge are male. So, you now concede that they don’t actually respond to user wants. There is something else going on?

When has the OP said he wants trans people off the site? He said he wants to only see biological women. That's a perfectly reasonable thing to require of a dating app. And you're making assumptions about the OP - his age and that he will mass like profiles without reading them. In fact you're assuming all men mass like profiles without reading them. But regardless, users of a dating app ought to be able to filter by SEX and/or gender.

As a woman I would also like to filter for biological men. I don't wish to exclude anyone from the site, just exclude them from the profiles shown to me. Just as I want to exclude smokers and men under 40.

The reason why dating apps don't cater entirely for the wants of the male sex is because they are often display frightening levels of entitlement and their wants are indicative of their problematic mindset.

Such as wanting to produce a list of women they'd fuck so they can easily mass "like" them without making a mistake and ending up connecting with someone you consider unfuckable.

You'd rather a 'trans person' walks into a dangerous situation than 'identifies themselves as such' thereby not allowing the person they are meeting to make their own decision about who they meet up with?

So you just want 'trans people' to be able to lie?

Rereading this

This is why men often get so annoyed by the lack of filters that allows him to find the women he most wants quickly.

So men, at least, would like more filters. Why not one for sex then? That overwhelming majority of men that you claim are happy to hook up with transwomen will still see them, and the users that don’t want to see them won’t. All users happy.

What straight men want is the ability to filter out the women with cocks, lets be honest.

One easy way is to ask for the sex of the person. Really fucking obvious.

Even if the 'trans allies' don't care about 'trans women' getting into situations that could end their lives it seems the evil TERFs do. Weird.

Do you have that 75% of straight men on dating sites want to fuck transwomen data to hand? Or is it like the rest of your ‘facts’?

What they'd find transphobic is forcing trans people to use a label that identifies them as such or making them use a sex based label.

No i said for every straight man like OP who wants trans people off of the site, there are 3 men who are fine with their presence there and yes, maybe want them there as potential matches. That is why your wishes to exclude trans people will be ignored snd they'd rather lose your business than the many more people who want trans people to use the site as they see fit.

What they'd find transphobic is forcing trans people to use a label that identifies them as such or making them use a sex based label.

No it doesn't. You just scroll past or stop engaging with people when you find out they don't meet your criteria. But that takes reading profiles. If you are a man and want just mass like any woman near you, then this seems annoying because you'd have to actually click on several profiles and read what the women had to say about themselves.

Men don't usually read profiles until there has been mutual interest. They just swipe right on every woman that doesn't repulse them by the way they look. When the woman "likes" them back, they may have a quick glance at her profile. Usually they just start asking questions they could have had answered from the profile.

This is why men often get so annoyed by the lack of filters that allows him to find the women he most wants quickly.

I don't if you've ever heard of Fetlife, but on there, you cannot search users by role or sex or gender. You can see people by location and that's it. It gets guys so angry that they can't find all the "dominant women in Essex" or "submissive trans women in Hull". But they don't want people (mostly men) to be able to pull up lists of women and start mass messaging them.

Not date as such but fuck, yes. That's why the porn is so popular.

But you don’t openly share your preferences on a dating site if there’s a filter: that’s the whole point. You don’t need openly to say “I’m looking for men under 40” openly in your profile because by setting a private preference the men over 40 aren’t shown to you.

The inability privately to express the preference not to meet trans-identifying people forces you to express it openly.

If you really want to avoid hurting other people’s feelings, you’d approve of the trans filter.

If you don’t want a trans filter, then it’s just a public purity test that you’re approving.

So if you don’t think it’s transphobic, what makes you think others will? What reason do you believe they would think that? What makes you think you have an insight into what others consider transphobic?

Ooh, nice ageist, sexist classist side swipe there.

So what you are really saying is all the cool young people will have sex with anyone because they are, like, so open and kind and accepting, and none of them are heterosexual, they are all 100% queer/pansexual/bisexual and just the best!!

But all the nasty pearl clutching, saggy titted middle aged women on MN are a bunch of uptight meanies who don’t like sex and are all married anyway. And some are even lesbians who won’t sleep with people with a penis!

Is that what you meant all along when you were wanting on about the “app user base” all being 100% happy with having no filter for sex?

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Even Lexible must agree that this is what they are claiming and that it sounds incredibly unlikely.

One to which Lexi (who said “I'd never say what type of men I mean though as it is hurtful and unnecessary.”, and therefore we conclude she considers herself kind) has not responded.

For the transwomen, sure. But what about the men who are looking for a relationship?

Surely transpeople would be best served a a dating app dedicated to people who actually wanted to date them longer term. Have any if them bothered to set one up, or is it all about glomming onto more mainstream apps amd then being disappointed with the outcomes?

It doesn't need to be the only option. I'm not sure that was the suggestion. If the app allowed users to filter by both sex and gender, how would that exclude transpeople?

I’m not sure why they would be scared. According to @Lexibletheflexible the world is awash with straight men gagging to date transwomen. 3 for every 1 who doesn’t want to, apparently. The app is full of trans inclusive ‘folks’. Not like the boring middle class marrieds, or whatever the phrase was. They wouldn’t filter out potential partners because they’re trans would they?

Absolute mystery what the objection is.