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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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MNLurker1345 · 08/08/2026 18:49

hahabahbag · 08/08/2026 18:26

There is variation within rape eg within a relationship is different to stranger(s) in the street but all are violations of a body and completely wrong. Statutory rape isn’t as black and white so best treated as a separate situation.

This is I think what he means. But anyone subjected to this type of violation is terrified and traumatised. Stranger or someone you know doesn’t make it different. Rape is rape.

By “statutory rape”, I assume you mean offences relating to age of consent. That’s a separate issue. A child under 13 cannot legally consent to sexual activity, regardless of whether the child appears to agree to it. Therefore, category rape, although the perpetrator would argue otherwise.

MarieDeGournay · 08/08/2026 18:31

"Yeah, it's a spectrum. None of which is any worse or less but it is a spectrum of things that constitute that one homogenised word, rape."

I think this was badly phrased, in fact some of it doesn't make sense, but in fairness he does not say it is a spectrum of seriousness, he says that rape can take many forms.

His statement that ends '“Any suggestion that my statements minimise or excuse rape or sexual assault are deeply false and misleading.”
seems OK.

I'm not sure that this is the worst thing a Green has ever said in this context..

Igmum · 08/08/2026 18:26

I think it shows how dangerously easy it is for motivated groups to take over small parties. I hope the Greens kick him out for this but I don’t think they value women enough (at all).

hahabahbag · 08/08/2026 18:26

There is variation within rape eg within a relationship is different to stranger(s) in the street but all are violations of a body and completely wrong. Statutory rape isn’t as black and white so best treated as a separate situation.

zanahoria · 08/08/2026 18:22

There is something deeply troubling about a male non-binary talking about the flaws of men.

It feels like he is talking about men but the same time trying to opt out of that category

worrisomeasset · 08/08/2026 18:19

I’ve seen the clips of his interview and he’s talking a load of incomprehensible toss. The “interviewer” is very annoying, she just nods as if he’s talking sagely. If she did her job properly, she’d have stopped him and said “just what the bloody fuck are you blathering on about?”

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/08/2026 18:18

MabelAnderson · 08/08/2026 18:03

So sad and frustrating what has happened to the Greens. When we need a party that cares about the environment, we have instead got a party who are mainly focused on gender nonsense.

Yes, I agree. There's a huge gap for a proper serious environmental party. The Greens are not it, what a joke.

MNLurker1345 · 08/08/2026 18:06

Manivannan has been catapulted from no where because he fits the Scottish Greens commitment to trans and non binary politics.

He isn’t a British citizen and didn’t have permanent residence when he was elected -
there is no question of illegality here according to the Greens. I do not say this to fuel the immigration debate I say this because he has moved so quickly through the Scottish Greens election process because he ideologically fits their narrative.

MabelAnderson · 08/08/2026 18:03

So sad and frustrating what has happened to the Greens. When we need a party that cares about the environment, we have instead got a party who are mainly focused on gender nonsense.

MyAquaOP · 08/08/2026 18:02

"He's apparently now saying people have misunderstood what he meant"

Except the explanation really isn't convincing. He's now saying that by "demonised" he meant that men who are rapists are mistakenly assumed to have a particular attitude or character. But this was a conversation about rehabilitation. If that's what he meant, he could have said so.

Likewise with "rape is a spectrum". He's now claiming he was making a point about how narrowly the law defines rape and sexual violence. Except he didn't mention sexual violence. He said specifically rape is a spectrum.

It's the political equivalent of trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. He's essentially saying words don't mean what they ordinarily mean.

Which unfortunately will probably work. They're the Greens, after all — the "nice" ones. We'll probably end up being told the women complaining are the problem, rather than seeing any real accountability.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/08/2026 17:57

I agree @IwantToRetire. He was unclear and is now claiming to have been misrepresented. What a waste of time.

thestudio · 08/08/2026 17:57

Alexa show me a picture of a red flag.

WerewolfOfLoudon · 08/08/2026 17:54

He always has an excuse. Horrible, racist, nasty man. Should never have been anywhere near Holyrood.

NelsonsGhost · 08/08/2026 17:51

I voted for devolution and Independence but thanks to Scotland's, frankly bonkers, PR list system allowing wankers like this into Parliament I'm seriously regretting both.

heathspeedwell · 08/08/2026 17:47

Well the Greens let transwoman Aimee Challenor employ his child-rapist father as election agent, after he was charged with rape. They were considering making Aimee Deputy Leader, despite the fact he was engaged to a man who openly published fiction online about his desire to have sex with children.

The Greens don't seem to do any due diligence at all.

IwantToRetire · 08/08/2026 17:36

Is there some special vetting code in Green Party application process that gives bonus points to pervy men?

How are they not ashamed to have representatives like this?

Will any women who are elected as Greens to represent people make any sort of comment?

He's apparently now saying people have misunderstood what he meant. Well even if they did as he is now a public figure he should make more of an effort to communicate clearly.

Angry