Heartstopper Forever film TRA propaganda: "People don't want me using public bathrooms", "Government is taking away my rights"

Representation of whom?

Who is it "calling out"?

Ah so a program that calls you out you and your disgusting views is "cringy". It's called a teen program and is exactly the representation we need in society.

My DD was watching this so I decided to watch the rest from about half way through.

Oh. My. God. It was bloody awful. Is this considered top notch tv these days? It’s was so cringy, cheesy, terrible dialogue and cliched. I don’t remember any of the nonsense trans activism because I was too busy rolling my eyes at the “drama” of it all.

Are we supposed to be impressed by the involvement of Yasmin Benoit? From what I’ve seen she’s an attention seeking influencer.

OneUniquePearlFish
Corrective violence: Research from King's College London, published in 2025 in collaboration with activist Yasmin Benoit, found that 31% of the public believe asexuality is something that can be "cured" through therapy...

Have you any evidence of 'corrective violence'?
There's sadly plenty of evidence of 'corrective violence' in the form of rape and murder of lesbians around the world - South Africa in particular, but it happens in many other countries.

Can you give examples of 'corrective violence' such as rape and murder experienced by asexual people who were targeted specifically because of their asexuality, as lesbians are targeted specifically because of theirs?

Your other two examples are less than convincing: in the first case, asexuality is not treated as a medical disorder, so it's not pathologized, so that's OK; in the second, I don't see how you have proven 'systemic erasure' - low life satisfaction and being afraid of how people will react does not constitute 'systemic erasure'

Not being covered by EA2010 is shared by many many other identities, so asexuality is not being systemically erased any more than the rest.

Thank you for responding to the request for examples of persecution of asexual people, but I'm sorry, as examples of persecution or discrimination, they just aren't very convincing.
The 'corrective violence' one in particular seems weak in comparison with the established problem of 'corrective violence' - the rape/murder kind of violence - perpetrated against lesbians.

I'd watch it. The movie/documentary about the reality of it I mean obviously.

Do you think if you post this pish on enough threads eventually no one will bother to call it out?

Never gonna happen.

Gladly. And no, none of this comes from Tumblr.

• Medical pathologization: Take a look at the World Health Organization's International Classification of Diseases (ICD) and NHS practices. For years, asexuality was treated as a medical disorder under diagnoses like Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder. Although the ICD-11, which came into effect in 2022, now makes it clear that asexuality is a sexual orientation rather than a medical condition, clinical practice hasn't fully caught up. The Stonewall Ace in the UK report found that many asexual people still have their identity questioned by NHS professionals, who often assume it's a mental health issue or the result of trauma.

• Systemic erasure: The UK Government's National LGBT Survey (2018) found that asexual respondents reported the lowest average life satisfaction of any LGBT group (5.9 out of 10), and 89% said they avoided being open about their identity because they feared negative reactions. On top of that, the Equality Act 2010 doesn't explicitly include asexuality as a protected sexual orientation, since its definition is based on attraction to a particular sex. That leaves asexual people without clear statutory protection against discrimination based specifically on their orientation.

• Corrective violence: Research from King's College London, published in 2025 in collaboration with activist Yasmin Benoit, found that 31% of the public believe asexuality is something that can be "cured" through therapy. The widespread belief that asexual people are "broken" or just "haven't met the right person yet" contributes to experiences such as conversion efforts, corrective abuse, and sexual violence intended to "fix" them.

As for your "Golly! Examples please" comment, it illustrates exactly the kind of dismissive attitude I'm talking about. Instead of engaging with the evidence, you're mocking the idea that these experiences exist because they don't fit your view of what discrimination looks like. It's ironic to see people argue that they're deeply concerned with marginalization while simultaneously dismissing or gatekeeping someone else's experiences. That kind of reaction only reinforces the point that this has become an echo chamber where some identities are treated as legitimate and others
aren't.

@OneUniquePearlFish “Asexuality faces systemic erasure, medical pathologization, and corrective violence”
Golly! Examples please…….

I’m open to hearing about it, because when I’ve read similar claims before they’ve just been trumped up hyperbole. If you can explain, I’m interested.

Could you describe exactly how not wanting to have sex with anyone at all leads to a person being oppressed?

To claim asexual people are 'appropriating' the 'genuine discrimination' of LGB and T people is wildly naive and uneducated. Asexuality faces systemic erasure, medical pathologization, and corrective violence. The absolute irony is that you are using the exact same cruel, dismissive 'it's all in your head/just a Tumblr trend' talking points against aces that bigots use to invalidate trans people. It is hilarious watching women on this board act like they are the ultimate marginalized group and the arbiters of suffering, all while gatekeeping identity and proving my exact point about what a hypocritical echo chamber this place is.

i believe there are people who don't want or need sex

I don't believe they suffer any kind of discrimination except in their own heads abd their cultural appropriation of the genuine discrimination faced by LGB and yes T ppl is ridiculous

given Alice's age I assume she spent a lot of time on tumblr

What? You don't believe in asexuality. The feminist board is the most hypocritical echo chamber I have witnessed. Always in for a good laugh 😂

Yep.

Or that you can run all the red lights that you want to if you don’t get caught.

Or that it is not a crime if you park wherever you want. Imagine telling someone when you park them in across their dropped kerb that it isn’t ’illegal’ as you just walk off and leave your car only to come back and not only find your car towed at your expense but a windscreen covered with parking infringement notices.

Apparently, only criminal laws have to be obeyed in some people’s minds. Oh… no hang on… it has pivoted now to ‘the law is not yet challenged’ so therefore male people can still do what they want.

It all amounts to ‘male people do what that want !’

Now… where exactly is McCloud’s ECHR claim? It has been 18 months.

So what you're saying is: Trans people can still break the law but if nobody stops them then there will be no consequences for them, despite this having clear effects on women.

I see.

It's like a campaign for drink driving, on the basis that if you are not stopped by the police then you will probably get away with it.

Interesting. I'm a total feminist, partic gc last 10 years and no longer a trans-ally in any form or shape, but i really like Heartstopper. It is a little bit 1 person from each category of the letter brigade, so lazy in that way. The characters are really sweet and it does show mid-late teens quite well. I shall be watching the film with DC. Hope its not as bad as your DD said!

What provisions do you not consider to be covered by sex segregation again?

List them and clearly list the reasons why they are likely to fail a challenge on the basis of proportionality?

Perhaps you should start giving details rather than simply repeating this claim of yours across multiple threads.

It is the next pivot that we are seeing. It is the ‘but wait, the EA2010 has to be challenged for toilet usage before any male person should be expected to respect female people’s needs to single sex spaces!’ after all the rhetoric such as ‘it is not against the law because it is not a ‘crime’’ style statements.

Of course, those statements ignore the lawful actions available to exclude male people such as employment disciplinary action, organisations banning people from using the premises that those organisations control and then a range of charges that police forces can use if needed if a crime has happened.

However, it is the latest pivot to try to dismiss the guidance.

RIP Silver Moon bookshop (note the section about the cafe)

No it isn’t.

The law is very clearly stated in the equality act, and the clarification from FWS at the Supreme Court.

Services are not allowed to discriminate against any protected characteristic except where discrimination (in a neutral sense of the word) is a proportionate means to achieve a legitimate aim.

One example of a “legitimate aim” is the use of single sex facilities to protect the privacy, safety and dignity of females from the presence of males when they are dealing with private bodily functions.

Providing single sex spaces is the proportionate means - female people are half of the population and it is reasonable to assume that the majority of them do not want to come across a male person in such a space.

”Case by case” is situation specific eg. Provision of toilets in shopping centre for example. If the owners of the centre want to provide separate sex spaces alongside other options, the equality act allows this act of discrimination because it is a proportionate means to achieve a legitimate aim.

Once the single sex space is established, there is no “case by case” assessment of each male person who wants to come in.

You seem to be suggesting that we need case law to establish that males do not have the right to access services for females on an individual basis.

This is bollocks.

You are basically saying male people should carry on using the female spaces and services because individual women can’t physically prevent this in moment but will have to complain to the service provider for not enforcing the rules, and then take them to court. This sounds a bit like using male power to make women put up with situations they don’t want. All a bit VAWG.

I don’t know what “case law” you are hoping for? The service provider can refuse service to anyone who is repeatedly making a nuisance of themselves.

???

But once a single-sex space is established as a proportionate means to a legitimate aim (privacy and dignity being a legitimate aim, for example) that’s it - you don’t have to justify the exclusion of each man individually.

But the point is this hasn't been done in a court of law explicitly for toilets yet. Case law is required for that.

Reminds me of the BBC’s Doctors, which ran for over two decades and in recent years has been pure TRA propaganda, adding in furries, non binary etc and apparently basing a villain character on Graham Linehan. And to an extent also Hollyoaks, where massive unit of a man “Sally” goes to a women’s prison and is terrorised by terfy female inmates.