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Darlington nurses win their employment tribunal

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Lovelyview · 16/01/2026 11:43

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/victory-for-darlington-nurses-as-judge-rules-policy-that-allows-men-into-womens-changing-rooms-is-unlawful-harassment-and-discrimination/

Brilliant news!

Victory for Darlington nurses as Judge rules policy that allows men into women’s changing rooms is unlawful harassment and discrimination - Christian Concern

In a landmark judgment, an Employment Tribunal has ruled that County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust unlawfully discriminated against and harassed the female nurses by requiring them to share female-only changing rooms with a biological male...

https://christianconcern.com/ccpressreleases/victory-for-darlington-nurses-as-judge-rules-policy-that-allows-men-into-womens-changing-rooms-is-unlawful-harassment-and-discrimination/

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71Alex · 16/01/2026 15:59

How nice it is to read this judgment after the mess that was the Sandie Peggie judgement. Absolutely clear that the women's changing room is only for women and that Rose should have been given a separate changing space.

PronounssheRa · 16/01/2026 15:54

WallaceinAnderland · 16/01/2026 15:17

They also said that the Trust did investigate discrimination but only discrimination against transgender people. They did not even consider discrimination against women which is why they have lost their case on the basis of sex discrimination.

Beautiful!

This is an issues across government in terms of public sector equality duties and equality impact assessments. They are nearly always one sided, and fail to consider the impact of a policy on everyone.

So let transwomen into women's single sex spaces, they consider the impact on transwomen but not women. Change the accessible toilet to gender neutral they consider the impact on trans people but not the impact on people with disabilities.

Alpacajigsaw · 16/01/2026 15:50

MrsKeats · 16/01/2026 15:36

So what will happen now? Will the nurses seek compensation or anything?

Yeah and with 7/8 claimants even if they only get relatively modest sums it will be costly

ThatBlackCat · 16/01/2026 15:50

Yep, @KermitTheToad was aiming for a gotcha. He must really not know they TRAs don't even try to hide their stance. We can smell them a mile away. Definitely sour grapes that men aren't allowed to expose their penis to women and girls in NHS changing rooms anymore. How sad for the flashers and flasher-enablers.

" KermitTheToad · 12/06/2025 20:18
I am sure that a lot of the transphobes on here identity as wonderful human beings. Some people will disagree with this. Just because I insist that you are not wonderful ( due to your lack of understanding) does not change how you feel about yourself."

and

"KermitTheToad · 12/06/2025 18:42
Yes, HE is now your brother in law. But nobody else in MN will agree with me."

Both from the same thread.

Alpacajigsaw · 16/01/2026 15:50

WallaceinAnderland · 16/01/2026 15:06

Just a shame we still haven’t had any findings of harassment against individual creepy men.

We don't need that though, we just need all men kept out of female only single sex spaces regardless of whether they are creepy or not.

This is what we have always argued for. It's not about trans women, it's about men. It's only the trans lot that have jumped on the band wagon and made it about themselves, as usual.

Agreed to a point, but it would also be nice if there were some personal consequences for these creeps. I can’t imagine finding that they had harassed colleagues will go down well with their regulators

Datafan55 · 16/01/2026 15:47

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/01/2026 14:53

These women have been so courageous. What a contrast to all the dodgy people in the NHS openly pushing for women employees to strip in front of men.
There must be some consequences for those in senior leadership signing off on all these predatory / illegal policies.

Public tarring and feathering would be my vote!

MeltedSunshine · 16/01/2026 15:44

MrsKeats · 16/01/2026 15:36

So what will happen now? Will the nurses seek compensation or anything?

There is likely to be another hearing for that. It is part of the outcome of this case

MrsKeats · 16/01/2026 15:36

So what will happen now? Will the nurses seek compensation or anything?

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/01/2026 15:28

Predictably, Cadence thinks the nurses are bigots. Someone else now criticising the nurse for referring to Rose as a man and not "respecting her pronouns"

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/01/2026 15:24

Creepy man named "Cadence" calling LBC now. Shelagh telling him what's what!

MeltedSunshine · 16/01/2026 15:22

Just a shame we still haven’t had any findings of harassment against individual creepy men.

Whilst it would be good if these men could be held personally responsible for their behaviour (though as an employment tribunal this would not be the case from this court), it could muddy the waters. It is not about the behaviour of men in these spaces, it is their presence. Making it about their behaviour could lead to TRAs saying ‘it is ok as long as you don’t harass women whilst there’.

Having said that, these creepy men should be charged with harassment by the police.

bigyellowtractorface · 16/01/2026 15:20

So in Sandy Peggie’s case judge ruled it was ok for men to use women’s changing rooms but judge in Darlington case ruled it wasn’t? Is that correct?

If so how are changing room providers meant to decide whether they exclude Tim’s or not? Hopefully TIM isn’t still an offensive term to mumsnet rules . I haven’t posted on this subject for a while so dunno what is and isn’t allowable these days. I know the Supreme Court ruling should provide clarity but presumably it didn’t make a difference in the case of Peggie, or did that ruling come out after that tribunal? I didn’t think it did though.

WallaceinAnderland · 16/01/2026 15:17

They also said that the Trust did investigate discrimination but only discrimination against transgender people. They did not even consider discrimination against women which is why they have lost their case on the basis of sex discrimination.

Beautiful!

EasternStandard · 16/01/2026 15:14

AllThisFuss · 16/01/2026 15:12

Here's the sugar:

436. As we have said, this is unquestioningly a legitimate aim. It is right and proper that Rose Henderson’s (and any other transgender employee’s) gender identity be respected. However, the measure taken in this case to achieve the aim of respecting Rose’s identity was not appropriate – because it was a breach of the 1992 Regulations. Furthermore, absent any consideration of the 1992 Regulations, it could not be appropriate given our conclusion that by permitting Rose use of the female changing room, this amounted to harassment related to sex, in contravention of section 26 Equality Act 2010.

ie, Yes we might politely go along with your delusion that you are a woman, but you aren't one when it comes to women's spaces.

I have seen knowledgeable pp on here mention 1992 work regulations before, I’m so glad they’ve proved useful here, and there’s the EA back up should Labour get ideas about that 1992 legislation.

AllThisFuss · 16/01/2026 15:12

Here's the sugar:

436. As we have said, this is unquestioningly a legitimate aim. It is right and proper that Rose Henderson’s (and any other transgender employee’s) gender identity be respected. However, the measure taken in this case to achieve the aim of respecting Rose’s identity was not appropriate – because it was a breach of the 1992 Regulations. Furthermore, absent any consideration of the 1992 Regulations, it could not be appropriate given our conclusion that by permitting Rose use of the female changing room, this amounted to harassment related to sex, in contravention of section 26 Equality Act 2010.

ie, Yes we might politely go along with your delusion that you are a woman, but you aren't one when it comes to women's spaces.

SirChenjins · 16/01/2026 15:11

This is fantastic news! I'm so pleased for these nurses, they absolutely deserved this outcome. Surely this will give weight to Peggie's appeal following the dog's dinner from Kemp - here's hoping.

SinnerBoy · 16/01/2026 15:11

I'm sure someone has pasted it, bit this is excoriating:

"By requiring the Claimants to share a changing room with a biological male trans woman… the Respondent engaged in unwanted conduct related to sex and gender reassignment which had the effect of violating the dignity of the Claimants and creating for the Claimants a hostile, humiliating and degrading environment.

“By not taking seriously and declining to address the Claimants’ concerns of August and September 2023 and of 04 April 2024, regarding that part of the Transition in the Workplace Policy that afforded biological males access to the female changing room, the Respondent engaged in unwanted conduct related to sex and gender reassignment which had the effect of creating for the Claimants a hostile and intimidating environment.”

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/01/2026 15:09

Great coverage by Shelgh Fogarty now!

WallaceinAnderland · 16/01/2026 15:06

Just a shame we still haven’t had any findings of harassment against individual creepy men.

We don't need that though, we just need all men kept out of female only single sex spaces regardless of whether they are creepy or not.

This is what we have always argued for. It's not about trans women, it's about men. It's only the trans lot that have jumped on the band wagon and made it about themselves, as usual.

EasternStandard · 16/01/2026 15:04

AllThisFuss · 16/01/2026 14:58

Over on trans Reddit, P-t-d has spoken. He always understands what's actually going on. And he has decided:

"Shy of finding that we would be engaged in personal harassment, this is the worst case scenario for us."

Protect-the-dollz
OP • 1m ago

So to give a rough recap of where we are with litigation:
This is the third case since FWS about access to single sex facilities by trans people at work.

There are three pieces of law whose interaction governing this is disputed.
The first is the Equality Act 2010 (EA) as interpred by FWS.

The second is the Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1992 (WRs).
The third is the Gender Recognition Act 2004

There is also an old case called Croft which holds essentially that at a certain point in transition we should be considered legally our new gender.

The previous two cases, Kelly and Peggie came to different conclusions.
Kelly held that the WRs take precedence. That employers can count yrans people as our desired sex for their purposes l.

Peggie held that for an employer to allow access to a single sex space against the objection if a terf will count as harassment of the terf on the part of the employer. It also held that the WRs do not apply to Employment Tribunals and that FWS does not prevent access to single sex spaces for trans people
Peggie however rests on fabricated quotes which the judge made up and do not appear in the authorities he quoted.

Kelly was about the best case scenario for us.

Darlington is the very worst.

It holds that the WRs must be read to be consistent with FWS and that there is no lawful basis for trans access to single sex spaces in the EA
It also agrees with Peggie that while a trans person being allowed to change with terfs is not harassment by the trans person, it is by the employer.

FTT decisions are not binding- however both Peggie and Kelly are being appealed and this creates a precedent which a lazy judge can defer to. This is extremely dangerous.

The High Court case addresses many of the same points and will be binding. It is extremely important that we win that one now.

Some of the worst paragraphs:

314 Mr Cheetham, in oral submissions, accepted that, for the purposes of those Regulations, ‘sex’ ‘may’ have to be interpreted in the same way as under the Equality Act in accordance with the Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland. The Supreme Court did not consider that particular piece of legislation in its judgment, although it examined the wider health and safety legislation framework. We are satisfied that, in keeping with the need for a coherent and workable structure, to enable those who have to regulate their conduct and comply with statutory duties, the meaning given to ‘men’ and ‘woman’ in those Regulations must logically be the same as under the Equality Act 2010.
...
430. We accept paragraphs 29 and 30 of Mr Fetto’s closing submissions and conclude that there was and is no right in law for a transgender person with or without the protected characteristic of gender reassignment to use a single-sex changing room corresponding with their affirmed gender. On the contrary, regulation 24 of the 1992 Regulations requires there to be separate changing rooms for use by biological men and women. In the case of For Women Scotland Ltd, the Supreme Court held that the words ‘sex’, ‘woman’ and ‘man’ in sections 11 and 212(1) of the Equality Act 2010 meant (and were always intended to mean) biological sex, biological woman and biological man. They did not include the sex that a person acquired pursuant to the issue of a gender recognition certificate, or a fortiori, to a transgender person not in possession of such a certificate.

431. The reference to ‘men’ and ‘women’ in the 1992 Regulations must, in our judgement, be interpreted harmoniously and consistent with ‘sex’ and ‘men’ and ‘women’ under the Equality Act. This was not seriously contested by Mr Cheetham, who conceded that this ‘may’ be the case. Parliament cannot, in 1992, prior to legislating for transgender recognition, have intended those words to bear any meaning other than biological sex. Nothing in the Equality Act or in other legislation since 1992 changes that.

432. There is nothing in the Equality Act that stands to override the 1992 Regulations and affords Rose or any other trans woman a ‘right’ to access the female changing room. The prohibition against gender reassignment discrimination under the Equality Act does not equate to a ‘right’ to access that space, such that it gives rise to competing rights with women who have rights under the 1992 regulations to be provided with suitable single-sex facilities in the relevant circumstances.
...

The aim of respecting the gender identity of all its employees

436. As we have said, this is unquestioningly a legitimate aim. It is right and proper that Rose Henderson’s (and any other transgender employee’s) gender identity be respected. However, the measure taken in this case to achieve the aim of respecting Rose’s identity was not appropriate – because it was a breach of the 1992 Regulations. Furthermore, absent any consideration of the 1992 Regulations, it could not be appropriate given our conclusion that by permitting Rose use of the female changing room, this amounted to harassment related to sex, in contravention of section 26 Equality Act 2010.

This is the worst case scenario for us.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 16/01/2026 15:00

The splendid Shelagh Fogarty on LBC is going to cover this after 3pm. She also had a swipe at Phillipson. Call in on 0345 6060973 to let her know what you think!

AllThisFuss · 16/01/2026 14:58

Over on trans Reddit, P-t-d has spoken. He always understands what's actually going on. And he has decided:

"Shy of finding that we would be engaged in personal harassment, this is the worst case scenario for us."

Protect-the-dollz
OP • 1m ago

So to give a rough recap of where we are with litigation:
This is the third case since FWS about access to single sex facilities by trans people at work.

There are three pieces of law whose interaction governing this is disputed.
The first is the Equality Act 2010 (EA) as interpred by FWS.

The second is the Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1992 (WRs).
The third is the Gender Recognition Act 2004

There is also an old case called Croft which holds essentially that at a certain point in transition we should be considered legally our new gender.

The previous two cases, Kelly and Peggie came to different conclusions.
Kelly held that the WRs take precedence. That employers can count yrans people as our desired sex for their purposes l.

Peggie held that for an employer to allow access to a single sex space against the objection if a terf will count as harassment of the terf on the part of the employer. It also held that the WRs do not apply to Employment Tribunals and that FWS does not prevent access to single sex spaces for trans people
Peggie however rests on fabricated quotes which the judge made up and do not appear in the authorities he quoted.

Kelly was about the best case scenario for us.

Darlington is the very worst.

It holds that the WRs must be read to be consistent with FWS and that there is no lawful basis for trans access to single sex spaces in the EA
It also agrees with Peggie that while a trans person being allowed to change with terfs is not harassment by the trans person, it is by the employer.

FTT decisions are not binding- however both Peggie and Kelly are being appealed and this creates a precedent which a lazy judge can defer to. This is extremely dangerous.

The High Court case addresses many of the same points and will be binding. It is extremely important that we win that one now.

Some of the worst paragraphs:

314 Mr Cheetham, in oral submissions, accepted that, for the purposes of those Regulations, ‘sex’ ‘may’ have to be interpreted in the same way as under the Equality Act in accordance with the Supreme Court judgment in For Women Scotland. The Supreme Court did not consider that particular piece of legislation in its judgment, although it examined the wider health and safety legislation framework. We are satisfied that, in keeping with the need for a coherent and workable structure, to enable those who have to regulate their conduct and comply with statutory duties, the meaning given to ‘men’ and ‘woman’ in those Regulations must logically be the same as under the Equality Act 2010.
...
430. We accept paragraphs 29 and 30 of Mr Fetto’s closing submissions and conclude that there was and is no right in law for a transgender person with or without the protected characteristic of gender reassignment to use a single-sex changing room corresponding with their affirmed gender. On the contrary, regulation 24 of the 1992 Regulations requires there to be separate changing rooms for use by biological men and women. In the case of For Women Scotland Ltd, the Supreme Court held that the words ‘sex’, ‘woman’ and ‘man’ in sections 11 and 212(1) of the Equality Act 2010 meant (and were always intended to mean) biological sex, biological woman and biological man. They did not include the sex that a person acquired pursuant to the issue of a gender recognition certificate, or a fortiori, to a transgender person not in possession of such a certificate.

431. The reference to ‘men’ and ‘women’ in the 1992 Regulations must, in our judgement, be interpreted harmoniously and consistent with ‘sex’ and ‘men’ and ‘women’ under the Equality Act. This was not seriously contested by Mr Cheetham, who conceded that this ‘may’ be the case. Parliament cannot, in 1992, prior to legislating for transgender recognition, have intended those words to bear any meaning other than biological sex. Nothing in the Equality Act or in other legislation since 1992 changes that.

432. There is nothing in the Equality Act that stands to override the 1992 Regulations and affords Rose or any other trans woman a ‘right’ to access the female changing room. The prohibition against gender reassignment discrimination under the Equality Act does not equate to a ‘right’ to access that space, such that it gives rise to competing rights with women who have rights under the 1992 regulations to be provided with suitable single-sex facilities in the relevant circumstances.
...

The aim of respecting the gender identity of all its employees

436. As we have said, this is unquestioningly a legitimate aim. It is right and proper that Rose Henderson’s (and any other transgender employee’s) gender identity be respected. However, the measure taken in this case to achieve the aim of respecting Rose’s identity was not appropriate – because it was a breach of the 1992 Regulations. Furthermore, absent any consideration of the 1992 Regulations, it could not be appropriate given our conclusion that by permitting Rose use of the female changing room, this amounted to harassment related to sex, in contravention of section 26 Equality Act 2010.

This is the worst case scenario for us.

MeltedSunshine · 16/01/2026 14:55

FutureAgesGroan · 16/01/2026 14:44

Great news! I wonder will there be more of these claims - there are a lot of hospitals with changing rooms across the country...

We need cases against unions to succeed. With backing from unions to support their claims there could be a torrent of cases. At the moment cost will be an issue for most.

ThatCyanCat · 16/01/2026 14:54

Lalgarh · 16/01/2026 14:51

Is this going to be another one of those tribunal cases that newly elected union boss Andrea Egan from Unison will say she's not been following?

(She has a neice identifying as a Trans man and is very much An Ally)

Is THAT why Unison are so insistent on making such arsing great tits of themselves and throwing all their female members under the bus?