Trans women ban in single sex spaces

I still don't understand why a birth certificate is amended. If someone gets a GRC, that does not change the fact they were born as a particular sex. Unless people truly believe in the 'assigned as ' thing.

But given that you're not supposed to be allowed to ask for sight of a GRC (apparently that's outing and denies them the right to a private life), how would no self-IDing into opposite sex spaces be managed.

You can't come in here - this is a single-sex women's space.
I am a woman.
You're male.
I am legally a woman.
Prove it.
Don't have to. You can't make me.

The EHRC are giving guidance based on the minimum that all parties agreed in FWS - that we do not have self-ID. The guidance says that and that providers must not operate as if Self-ID was the law. They also put paid to the ideas that access to SS spaces should be decided case-by-case and that anyone with a trans identity ought to be granted access to facilities which accord with their GI except in exceptional circumstances, neither of which ever had any basis in the EA2010. It's basically correcting the errors of the TA-influenced statutory guidance of 2011.

The question of whether MCWs with a GRC can join women-only gyms, lesbian groups etc is what will be decided on Wednesday. If I understand correctly, regardless of the SC judgement, women's RCCs and communal changing rooms etc can still be off limits to males with a GRC.

Or, “Men still excluded from single-sex spaces designated for women”.

I wish media felt confident to frame this correctly. It would help people to understand what the core issues are and what is at stake.

The Gender Recognition Act needs to be repealed. That was a big mistake.

It may be a partial improvement. I think it will be rather concerning though when combined with the cheaper and less rigorous approach to get that GRC.

This is exactly what the FWS case is about. Judgement due in Wednesday.

This and Labour have always said they intend to make it easier for people to get a GRC, so this has the potential to enable more men to be able to say ‘legally we are entitled to be here’ and make it harder for service providers to exclude males from female spaces. We need the guidance and legislation to be explicitly clear that:

a) Women/female in legislation refers to biological sex
b) A GRC does not entitle males access to services/provisions reserved explicitly for females and that exclusions that are in place for a legitimate reason are legal.

I'm.so tired of this. If men felt vulnerable and tables were turned it would never have gone this far. It a travesty

I don't even see it as a 'ban', it's just not capitulation to their demands!

Exactly. Very welcome to spaces consistent with their sex, just like everyone else.

Let’s be accurate; no one is surely suggesting banned transwomen from single sex spaces, only the single sex spaces reserved for the female sex.

But what about those who do have a gender recognition certificate? There'll still be a man in what should be a womens only space, but it's okay because he has a certificate?