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Jo Phoenix vs The OU Employment Tribunal 2nd October (whispers Ben Cooper)

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ickky · 25/09/2023 09:12

Employment Tribunal starts next Monday, not sure if it is available for remote viewing.

I have sent a request so we will see.

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VWdieselnightmare · 04/10/2023 11:36

No word from friends on the ground in Watford. Presume they've turned their phones off: recording is prohibited and it may be that staff intervene if they see people on their phones. Will try to speak to them during lunch break. Those who've been waiting since 8-ish (got there early in the hope of getting into the public gallery) will be feeling pretty shattered. This just prolongs the agony for Jo.

Is it true that only 30 people can observe online? There were more than 50 (she said something along the lines of 'I can see around 50 applications... Oh, more, 50 at least but a lot more') people who had applied and hadn't been granted online access.

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ickky · 04/10/2023 11:35

and WHO keeps whispering?

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 04/10/2023 11:34

At least Hochhauser was charismatic!

This woman sounds like a complete pain in the arse/TRA.

Sisterpita · 04/10/2023 11:34

@RocketPanda glad you are back with us.

They seem to have adjusted the camera view so we can see the panel and hopefully the microphones.

I am always amazed how slow paced an ET is compared to the rushing around I always did. It reminds me that having proper breaks, lunch etc. is important and too many times I neglected to take them.

Melissamelisante · 04/10/2023 11:33

Fukin' 'ell

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ickky · 04/10/2023 11:33

This is more painful than Hochhouser's "How Twitter Works" lesson. FFS

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PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 11:33

I’m going to get a support biscuit whilst the EJ faffs around

CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 11:32

There is absolutely no way this strict minute by minute timetable can be stuck to. It's pointless. Broad outline of the order of witnesses and how long they'll take but this is bonkers.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 11:32

I've written Fribonce (??) Everyone is pronouncing it differently, which is unhelpful but is also making me laugh.

PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 11:31

Professor Frivolous?

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ickky · 04/10/2023 11:31

@PoshCoffee

Yes, slightly more colourful language, but essentially the same meaning.

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 11:30

Judge had forgotten one witness can only give evidence on Mon so now reshuffling.

Melissamelisante · 04/10/2023 11:29

Painful

PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 11:28

Is anyone else shouting JUST GET ON WITH IT!!

CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 11:28

PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 11:27

Is this the judge’s inexperience showing?

Yup.

CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 11:27

Blimey, is she going to do this for every single witness?

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ickky · 04/10/2023 11:27

You can see why they need 15 days, half of them is fannying about by the court.

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PoshCoffee · 04/10/2023 11:27

Is this the judge’s inexperience showing?

CriticalCondition · 04/10/2023 11:26

This is absurd. Fair enough to indicate the rough timetable over the next couple of days but to the minute?! There are natural points to pause in exam and cross exam. I bet counsel think this is a ridiculous waste of time too.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 11:25

Mad isn't it??

Long and the short: Thurs 10am start, Jo continuing to give evidence all day til 4pm, also Fri 10 am start, Jo giving evidence until 1:15pm.

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ickky · 04/10/2023 11:23

OMG we don't need a minute by minute schedule.

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 11:21

Timetabling - won't start with Jo til 2pm, will take break for lunch @ 1pm

VWdieselnightmare · 04/10/2023 11:20

According to TT, people admitted to the public gallery now. Online observers still waiting.

Judge has opened proceedings but is very softly-spoken and TT actually in the court aren't confident of being able to hear everything. Bit shocking that even people in the room can't hear what the judge says.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/10/2023 11:18

Chrysanthemum5 · 04/10/2023 11:17

I'm in but no picture or sound

Log out, then back in again with little icons for camera and microphone turned on, they are for tribunal's end not yours so you need them on to see and hear what's going on.

Chrysanthemum5 · 04/10/2023 11:18

Surely they should have anticipated this would be a session lots of people would want to attend.