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Irish cancer charity's bizarre campaign "it's not just men over 40 should be aware of prostate cancer"

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Fenlandia · 18/09/2023 13:50

https://twitter.com/MarieKeating/status/1703695529245372416

No-one should begrudge a cancer charity making sure that trans people are fully aware of cancers that may affect them, regardless of how they identify.

This passage is utter genderwoo on steroids:

"Denise is no ordinary woman. She has a trans history. What that means is that when she was born, doctors thought she was male. They were wrong. After many years of depression and struggling, Denise began her social and medical transition in her late thirties. She made her legal transition when the Gender Recognition Act came into law in Ireland in 2015 and completed her medical transition a few years later.

Having been assigned male at birth and despite surgery to correct that error, Denise has a prostate. Most transgender women do, as do some intersex and non-binary people. That’s ok. Nature is weird and wonderful sometimes. It is infinite in its diversity and combinations."

(This isn't a case of doctors struggling with to diagnose a DSD, this is just a male person who chose to have some cosmetic surgeries.)

A fucking cancer charity stating that doctors correctly identifying a male baby made a "mistake" that needed "correcting". Terrifying.

https://twitter.com/MarieKeating/status/1703695529245372416

OP posts:
JanesLittleGirl · 18/09/2023 18:10

"Denise has had to repeat her PSA test numerous times because the lab sees the label “female” and throws it in the bin, assuming an error. This is why education is so important: education for medical staff and laboratory technicians – to understand that a simple XX/XY chromosomal binary is a very narrow definition of human nature and biology."

See, this what happens when you are allowed to lie. People who don't know that you are lying believe the information that they are given and chuck what appears to be a pointless test in the bin.

It actually made me laugh but I don't identify as nice.

CorruptedCauldron · 18/09/2023 18:05

If this type of confusing language persists, I think in the future we’ll have girls thinking they might have a prostate, while boys wonder whether they have a cervix. Why can’t medical language be kept clear and easy to understand? Sex matters in medicine, but gender identity is a distraction.

RunningUpThatBuilding · 18/09/2023 17:45

Genuinely frightening.

Before all this gender nonsense was a thing there was a push to make medical information simple and clear for the general public.

Pandering to gender ideology just makes it all the worse. How people with learning difficulties or who are relatively new to speaking English as an additional language are supposed to navigate this guff is just madness...

itsmyp4rty · 18/09/2023 17:39

Well they're right about one thing at least - Denise is no ordinary woman.

SirChenjins · 18/09/2023 17:34

Most transgender women do

There will be a male shaped reason for that.

Utter nonsense from this charity. Denise has a prostate because Denise is biologically a bloke. If archaeologists dig up Denise’s bones in years to come, long after his prostate has rotted away with the rest of his soft tissue, they will identify him as male - not because the doctors made some kind of ‘mistake’ but because he is male.

SamW98 · 18/09/2023 17:29

TrainedByCats · 18/09/2023 15:31

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What a load of bollocks

Yep and Denise almost certainly had a pair of those when she was ‘assigned male at birth’

loislovesstewie · 18/09/2023 17:27

Why can't they just say 'all men have prostates?'.We don't need the other nonsense about being assigned at birth, or mistakes,or nature being weird. And Denis should know he has a prostate.

RethinkingLife · 18/09/2023 17:17

I'm beginning to think healthcare organisations and charities are giving up on improving the health literacy of the population, no matter what the consequences.

They'd rather adhere to an ideology than serve their populations and save health related quality of life and survival.

I find it hard to accept that people still think charities like that are worthwhile recipients of their donations.

AnSolas · 18/09/2023 17:09

Fenlandia · 18/09/2023 15:52

Boggling, isn't it? This is a cancer charity. If it's anything like the ones in the UK, it should have medical professionals and communicators involved in crafting messaging for different groups. This article seems to have been written by someone with rainbow crayons and no brains.

It started as a kind of vanity project by the family to remember Marie Keating.
From memory the family could have joined the efforts of the Irish Cancer Society but choose to duplicate a charity structure so its not medical led but started as a fundraising organisation for breast cancer.

That an Irish charity is pretending that a woman has a prostate is shit. But not unexpected as the sector as a whole will be very small and captured as the government has been pushing GRC's and the Idea of Self ID for years

WickedSerious · 18/09/2023 17:01

So it actually is men over forty who need to worry about prostate cancer.

Righto then.

JellySaurus · 18/09/2023 16:29

Fenlandia · 18/09/2023 14:20

Gah, this line ...

"Through supporting programmes such as Blue September, Denise hopes that all transgender, intersex and non-binary people will consider getting a PSA test and also that the medical profession will educate themselves beyond the simple binary."

What, ALL transgender, intersex and non-binary people???

The only ones that really exist are the ones with a prostate. Clearly, the ones you're thinking about are unpersons.

Winterscomingagain · 18/09/2023 16:22

What an amazing charity, founded in memory of Ronan Keating's mother.I do think they've gone astray regarding this article but their website is amazing. If only charities wouldn't try to be on trend all the time and just do their work well.

maslinpan · 18/09/2023 16:15

It's the first time I have seen an issue specific to men taking a trip through the trans language mangle. It will be interesting to see if there's pushback from men who haven't yet experienced this type of erasure.

TheHappyCarrot · 18/09/2023 16:15

So, she has a prostate...and a very masculine jawline.

StephanieSuperpowers · 18/09/2023 16:15

Another charity that doesn't want any further donations.

Forester1 · 18/09/2023 15:55

Or maybe it’s a clever plot by someone GC to peak a few more people 😄

Fenlandia · 18/09/2023 15:52

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/09/2023 15:44

Is there something in the water? Is it plastics? Here we are, the species with the most powerful brains ever known, and yet millions of humans have just lost or never acquired the skill of thinking logically and critically about things. Nobody who is actually using their brains properly could believe this nonsense. Why are they going along with it?

Boggling, isn't it? This is a cancer charity. If it's anything like the ones in the UK, it should have medical professionals and communicators involved in crafting messaging for different groups. This article seems to have been written by someone with rainbow crayons and no brains.

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Igneococcus · 18/09/2023 15:47

That's possible @off it sounds like it could be, I'm not a trekkie.

It's just completely lacking any understanding how evolution works.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/09/2023 15:44

Is there something in the water? Is it plastics? Here we are, the species with the most powerful brains ever known, and yet millions of humans have just lost or never acquired the skill of thinking logically and critically about things. Nobody who is actually using their brains properly could believe this nonsense. Why are they going along with it?

off · 18/09/2023 15:34

Igneococcus · 18/09/2023 14:00

Nature is weird and wonderful sometimes. It is infinite in its diversity and combinations

It actually isn't, or natural selection wouldn't be a thing,

Weirdly, it seems to be a Star Trek reference:

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/IDIC

IDIC

Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Symbolizing the elements that create truth and beauty.Spock 2 IDIC was an acronym for Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations, the basis of Vulcan philosophy, celebrating the vast array of variables in t...

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/IDIC

TrainedByCats · 18/09/2023 15:31

I
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What a load of bollocks

ImFineThankYouSusan · 18/09/2023 15:26

Gosh darn those medical professionals, they can be so silly some times. Not knowing what a male or female is... At least those same professionals know though, despite being oh so wrong, they are right you have a prostate. Funny that.

Kilopascal · 18/09/2023 14:53

I think that shortens to
'Denise is no woman. She has a trans history. What that means is that she was born male. After many years of depression and struggling, Denise began her social and medical transition in her late thirties.
Being male, despite surgery, Denise has a prostate.'

comfyoldcardi · 18/09/2023 14:52

What a load of nonsense.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 18/09/2023 14:50

plumtreebroke · 18/09/2023 13:58

Maybe she was born intersex and it was a decision that she was more male than female, that could have been a mistake.

If she was born fully male by examination that was not a mistake, no one could read a new born's mind and say ah, but he will grow up to decide he's a girl..

If he was born with a DSD and a prostate then his DSD was one that only occurs in males. He was born male, remains male.

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