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lechiffre55 · 2023-09-16T14:48:05+00:00

I know it's a mistake but I thought this was rather funny :) "Former Sun Editor Kelvin MacKenzie has praised Richard Ayoade’s show of support for cancelled comedian Richard Ayoade." [[https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/kelvin-mackenzie-richard-ayoade-jonathan-ross-latest-trans https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/kelvin-mackenzie-richard-ayoade-jonathan-ross-latest-trans]]

SeatonCarew · 17/09/2023 06:11

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/09/2023 05:55

Ugh please - this mentality is so damaging. GB news thrives on an is predicated on creating and exploiting divisions in society. Don’t try she pretend there’s anything more to it - nobody is obliged to mindlessly absorb toxins just because they might be on the right side in the whole trans debate. Stopped clocks etc

Which is why you read widely. Read everything and read it critically. That's what I was taught about 1000 years ago by erudite professors who were obsessed with balance and critical thinking and examining one's position. People who advised Nelson Mandela read the IMF and World bank reports and the propaganda of the Apartheid regime. People who fled Chile read Pinochet and Thatcher. People who were involved in the Troubles read from both sides and the middle. The accepted wisdom was that you couldn't argue against a point until you could lay out what the point was from the POV of the people you disagreed with.

It made us better. Partisan reading is very very stupid. It is divisive whichever source you pick as your one and only. Whether it's The Guardian, The Independent or GB News. It makes you more stupid and certainly more ignorant. Even if it's only to know thine enemy, it's worth doing.

I completely agree with this and some of the earlier posters. I make a point of reading widely, including sources I don't automatically agree with, in order to educate and challenge myself. It is only by considering other points of view that we discover what we truly think.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/09/2023 05:55

Ugh please - this mentality is so damaging. GB news thrives on an is predicated on creating and exploiting divisions in society. Don’t try she pretend there’s anything more to it - nobody is obliged to mindlessly absorb toxins just because they might be on the right side in the whole trans debate. Stopped clocks etc

Which is why you read widely. Read everything and read it critically. That's what I was taught about 1000 years ago by erudite professors who were obsessed with balance and critical thinking and examining one's position. People who advised Nelson Mandela read the IMF and World bank reports and the propaganda of the Apartheid regime. People who fled Chile read Pinochet and Thatcher. People who were involved in the Troubles read from both sides and the middle. The accepted wisdom was that you couldn't argue against a point until you could lay out what the point was from the POV of the people you disagreed with.

It made us better. Partisan reading is very very stupid. It is divisive whichever source you pick as your one and only. Whether it's The Guardian, The Independent or GB News. It makes you more stupid and certainly more ignorant. Even if it's only to know thine enemy, it's worth doing.

Ihavehadenoughalready · 17/09/2023 04:21

Sometimes a quote for a book is just a quote for an old friend's book by a fellow book writer.

I hope I can continue to enjoy the work of Richard Ayoade; I sincerely hope that him allowing a kind quote for Linehan's book was not an endorsement of Linehan's anti-LGBTQ rants.

AIstolemylunch · 17/09/2023 03:57

Yes apart from the fact they have those utter bellends Jacob Ress Moggs and Farage on sometimes, GB news doesn t seem any worse than any other news outlet to me and at least they have FreeSpeech nation on which is something I believe in and you don't get elsewhere. I don't get the outrage really.

Bosky · 17/09/2023 03:31

"GB news thrives on an is predicated on creating and exploiting divisions in society."

Funnily enough that's how I feel about The Guardian, BBC, Channel 4, The Independent, The Metro, etc.

Is there any news outlet that is not "predicated on creating and exploiting divisions in society"?

Moonwatcher1234 · 16/09/2023 23:50

lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 15:57

You know the mentality that you shouldn't read or have anything to do with certain media outlets is really bad for you mental health? It promotes and exacerbates the divisions in society and is one of the reasons that everything is so febrile right now. There's an old saying "attack the message not the messenger".
Without sites like GB news who are prepared to have gender critical voices on to express their views a lot of the general public would never get to hear gender critical views and ideas. Maybe the bogeymen aren't quite as literally Hitler as you think.

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Ugh please - this mentality is so damaging. GB news thrives on an is predicated on creating and exploiting divisions in society. Don’t try she pretend there’s anything more to it - nobody is obliged to mindlessly absorb toxins just because they might be on the right side in the whole trans debate. Stopped clocks etc

Rudderneck · 16/09/2023 23:02

lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 15:57

You know the mentality that you shouldn't read or have anything to do with certain media outlets is really bad for you mental health? It promotes and exacerbates the divisions in society and is one of the reasons that everything is so febrile right now. There's an old saying "attack the message not the messenger".
Without sites like GB news who are prepared to have gender critical voices on to express their views a lot of the general public would never get to hear gender critical views and ideas. Maybe the bogeymen aren't quite as literally Hitler as you think.

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That's the fear people have.

Someone will watch GB news to see stuff on some specific topic.And fin them being fairly sensible.

Then they might think - maybe these guys aren't as evil and stupid as I assumed, What else do they have to say?

And then they see a different take on some other topics, and maybe some of it isn't stupid and evil, or it's even convincing, or worst of all, they realize their former sources were really giving a strong slant on the issue.

And all of a sudden they are questioning their political allegiances and maybe thinking about things on their own.

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lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 16:44

@Maaate
much lols thank you :)

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Maaate · 16/09/2023 15:59

AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:50

Arrgh! Just clicked on the shite that is gbnews. 🙄

Oh noes

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lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 15:57

AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:52

😁 I agree with the general sentiment though.

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You know the mentality that you shouldn't read or have anything to do with certain media outlets is really bad for you mental health? It promotes and exacerbates the divisions in society and is one of the reasons that everything is so febrile right now. There's an old saying "attack the message not the messenger".
Without sites like GB news who are prepared to have gender critical voices on to express their views a lot of the general public would never get to hear gender critical views and ideas. Maybe the bogeymen aren't quite as literally Hitler as you think.

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Helleofabore · 16/09/2023 15:54

AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:50

Arrgh! Just clicked on the shite that is gbnews. 🙄

Oh no! Thoughts and prayers! Thoughts and prayers!

AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:52

lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 15:51

well I'm sorry, go and have a good scrub

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😁 I agree with the general sentiment though.

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lechiffre55 · 16/09/2023 15:51

AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:50

Arrgh! Just clicked on the shite that is gbnews. 🙄

well I'm sorry, go and have a good scrub

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AgnesX · 16/09/2023 15:50

Arrgh! Just clicked on the shite that is gbnews. 🙄

WarriorN · 16/09/2023 15:49

🤣