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SabrinaThwaite · 18/09/2023 15:01

And apparently 336 people have chosen to have their babies with us.

quantumbutterfly · 18/09/2023 15:00

Sorry, picturing a non-frontal birth like a rugby ball leaving a scrum. Bit bewildered by the phrase.

comfyoldcardi · 18/09/2023 14:58

In what possible way could a gynaecologist treat a male person? It is ridiculous. Any treatment needs to be provided by their original surgeon or endocrinologist. I imagine the gynaecologist would be worried about being sued for taking on something well outside his area of training /expertise.

Wrongsideofpennines · 18/09/2023 14:55

I can't believe a hospital have used that wording. A c section delivery is more 'to the front' than a vaginal delivery if we're being literal, and if you're talking about what's between your legs then the urethra is at the front. Also, everyone has breast tissue regardless of gender or sex, that's why men can get breast cancer.

IcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2023 14:54

As that, arguably, describes caesarean sections too, fuck knows.

quantumbutterfly · 18/09/2023 14:51

Frontal births??? As opposed to...

SabrinaThwaite · 18/09/2023 14:47

OhcantthInkofaname · 16/09/2023 23:29

I read an article a day or so ago, and I can't find it now, apparently some of the trans don't want to refer to part of female anatomy as a vagina. We are supposed to call it a front hole in order for us to standardize anatomy. Some biological humans have a front hole and some don't.

I saw this poster from Essex hospitals promoting birth stats - apparently vaginal births also must be called frontal births Confused

French gynaecologist ignites row over refusal to treat trans woman
DysonSpheres · 18/09/2023 14:45

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I am (fortunately) on the last few days of my period. Since I hit 45, my periods have been really disruptive. They are still regular and I was always a heavy bleeder, but now they are ridiculous. Over the course of days 2,3,4&5 I had to:

Change and wash my bedding 3 times
Change and wash the bathmats 3 times, once as soon as I changed it due to flooding.
Soaked my clothes several times
Stained the sofa, stained the kitchen chair.
Made a complete mess of the bathroom and had to shower at 4am in the morning twice. Had clots mess up the bathwater so I had to let it out and forget about the bath.

They are so bad by the way, that I will not travel whilst on my period for fear of bleeding through in public, which has happened to my utter mortification before whilst travelling in a cab.

I am drained and exhausted. My iron levels by the way, are on the floor.

I do not feel 'affirmed' or 'empowered' Anyone wearing period underwear for that purpose is mocking the - What's that buzzword everyone loves these days - lived experience of women.

This is frankly insulting and disgusting. Modi bodi can go to hell.

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IcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2023 13:35

I'm saying nowt.

But I want to.

whatwasthatgrandma · 18/09/2023 13:34

Saschka · 16/09/2023 15:39

I feel Modibodi, makers of period pants, may have something of a vested interest in persuading the world that every person of every gender needs to purchase their knickers?

Sure, but they're telling women who have periods that men have them too. And that is going to make a lot of us categorically not buy from them. So if there only care is making money....fail.

DysonSpheres · 18/09/2023 13:33

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 13:16

I think a woman with thrush would also be likely to get very short shrift from a French gynaecologist if all she had was thrush. That's what the pharmacy is for.

Actually some women suffer chronic thrush where candida is out of control and the cream and pessaries don't eliminate it. Regular Diflucan (flucanazole?) treatment monthly can be prescribed by a gynae. It can also be prescribed by a doctor whose decent and knows more about thrush.

It's more common in women with hormonal issues like thyroid disease or perimenopausal.

Men rarely get this sort of persistent thrush.

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 13:31

Which trans women do not get for fairly obvious reasons.

DysonSpheres · 18/09/2023 13:29

Bacterial vaginosis

IcakethereforeIam · 18/09/2023 13:25

I'm probably going to kick myself but what's 'BV'?

woopdedoodle · 18/09/2023 13:21

Men get thrush.

Men still don't need to see a gyne.

MargotBamborough · 18/09/2023 13:16

Justwrong68 · 18/09/2023 12:25

Gynaecologists don't treat thrush, they don't have anything available that's any better than over the counter

I think a woman with thrush would also be likely to get very short shrift from a French gynaecologist if all she had was thrush. That's what the pharmacy is for.

Justwrong68 · 18/09/2023 12:25

Mstxxx · 16/09/2023 11:36

My friend is a trans woman and gets BV and thrush the same as the rest of us. Can walk into a non-specialist doctors office in the UK and get treated for BV/thrush just the same. Not sure what the French doctors issue was if that's the case here and it can be treated the same way as any other woman. Sadly I think there is an agenda from both sides to spark up me vs them arguments

Gynaecologists don't treat thrush, they don't have anything available that's any better than over the counter

Justwrong68 · 18/09/2023 12:19

StoneTheCrone · 16/09/2023 10:27

What exactly would the trans woman expect the doctor to do? Isnt it all just a performance?

Just for the sake of 'passing'

Justwrong68 · 18/09/2023 12:12

What would he do with an inside out ballsack? A smear test? Maybe a shave

Grammarnut · 18/09/2023 11:57

What Pothole said, ditto.

BeverlyBrook · 17/09/2023 21:43

NameChangedBcAshamed · 17/09/2023 21:20

Am I missing something here? Why would a trans woman need to see a gynaecologist?!

That is exactly the point

MargotBamborough · 17/09/2023 21:22

@NameChangedBcAshamed If the transwoman needed to see a gynaecologist, they wouldn't have been sent away without being seen.

NameChangedBcAshamed · 17/09/2023 21:20

Am I missing something here? Why would a trans woman need to see a gynaecologist?!

TWETMIRF · 17/09/2023 18:44

OhcantthInkofaname · 16/09/2023 23:29

I read an article a day or so ago, and I can't find it now, apparently some of the trans don't want to refer to part of female anatomy as a vagina. We are supposed to call it a front hole in order for us to standardize anatomy. Some biological humans have a front hole and some don't.

Which shows how little they know about women's bodies as a vagina would be a middle hole if we were to use such disgusting terms

Londisc · 17/09/2023 18:19

They want to say they are just another "woman" visiting her gynae.

Well in that case, "Sandrine" has learnt what can be like to be "just another woman visiting a gynae! The last time I went to the see one (in Paris) was to ask for HRT to deal with perimenopause symptoms (increased frequency, heaviness and duration of periods + significant premenstrual tenderness and irritability which I'd not suffered from before). The doctor barely listened to a word I said, had already decided that I was "too young" in my early 40s to have the treatment, but told me he could give me the contact details of a psychologist friend of his as he dismissed me from his office.

Bienvenue dans la vraie vie des femmes.

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