BBC cancels Roisin Murphy

Labour will be including gender in hate crime for the first time

Can’t see whether it includes misgendering

In Ireland they are trying to push through legislation that would make misgendering a hate crime.

Can you imagine if we were criminalised for saying Isla Bryson was male for example

Or anyone that actually is male

We’d be fully in Orwell territory

I think Labour are planning to do it?

Also a comment by Jawad Iqbal in the Times:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2a0df636-5263-11ee-a518-203f78f24415?shareToken=b7d46150effd1d1014599b87500f9830

@EasternStandard thus is one of the biggest pitfalls in including the protected characteristic of sex in the Hate Crimes Act.

That it will be used by men against women.

Front page of the Times

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1b0419fc-526f-11ee-abb5-ce4135341f1b?shareToken=dedbe382126943ae468f842b815bdda7

Sorry, that was mean to quote IcakethereforeIams post at 15.59.

It's interesting, isn't it? Victoria talks about having to quell absolutely all dissent, in order that people can keep their cognitive dissonance at bay, and keep believing. Even private dissent mustn't happen.

But the cat keeps wriggling out of the bag.

What will happen when these people suddenly realise that there is actually no such thing as a trans kid?

That medicating these children is harming them, not helping them. And that they are, indeed, mixed up kids. That transgenderism is being sold as a snake oil fantasy explanation for a whole bunch of other, totally recognisable, but now untreated, issues. With children used as a means to an end.

When adult men no longer have the backstory of being 'born trans' to explain their behaviour, or to justify why they have demanded wholesale accommodation for their every waking need, what will happen?

The 'trans child' has been very necessary to sanitise a lot of the narrative. To take any sexual element out, and to remove any sense of culpability to accommodate the idea that they're just 'born that way'.

I wonder what will happen when suddenly that all falls away.

What will people see?

Archive link to a Times article on the BBC's cancellation of Roisin (which was totally a coincidence 🤔 they hadn't even heard anything about 'comments').

https://archive.ph/KSC47

Her capitalised "I'VE GOT A VENUE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT!"
...I'm sure it's simple joy. But it's imho also coded language that the first gigs were cancelled, that's death for a performer like her, and that she's absolutely at one with the fans that stuck with her, and that her livelihood was put at risk.

I agree with Brendan O'Neill, I think there's a watershed or jumping the shark moment on prominent figures cancel culture at play here.

The woke scolds expected her to fold further, the Twitter shitstorm to so engulf her, a cascade reaction of ordinary people turning their backs on her, the wider industry shunning her. More venues, maybe all, turning her away.
And the herd/purity spiral burying her.

In 2019, yes. Even 2022, this could have been her fate. But it's 2023, and she's part of the chain reaction from Lia Thomas, Austin Killips and Emily Bridges in sport, Isla Bryson and SJB re prisons/violent offenders, Dylan Mulvaney and Mika Minio re preposterous womanface, and visibility of GCs winning in court ie Alison Bailey, Maya Forstater, Jo Cherry, Julie Bindel, and the farcical attempted cancelling of Kath Stock at Oxford.

I think Róisín's case here is absolutely peaking, the mob picked on the wrong target, and each further slight against her (BBC Six Music deleting her) looks more and more prejudicial.

"I'VE GOT A VENUE FOR TOMORROW TONIGHT!" is both exclamation of joy, and V sign to her detractors. And a message to us.

https://twitter.com/roisinmurphy/status/1701988276326789189

'I GOT A VENUE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT! Another stripped back and very intimate show. It’s my pleasure to do these shows. The ones in Leeds and Kingston were a revelation to me, revealing more about the songs and a different aspect to my performance'

@RealityFan

They all have, ahem, embellished credentials, thought.. Allegedly.

Hmm, send that old baloney to BBC Verify.
Fake news!

Shut Down they say.. Keep Dreaming, keep dreeeeeeeeaminnnnng...

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1812457/Roisin-Murphy-bbc-cancelled-trans-comments

An incentive to learn Welsh!

*A licence is not needed to watch S4C programmes on demand.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/cancellations-and-refunds-top7

Powerful writing.

Now she's a Gp. Married to another Gp. With many Gp mates.

The thing is I don't believe in leaving; I believe in making the changes within and via due processes.

Currently most people are naive to all this and just carry on listening to and enjoying bbc

A Gp mate had never heard of Sharon Davis (she's young 😂) but heard her on WH and it has opened conversations about the whole gender debarcle as well as helped her understand that she's not the only one who thinks it's all batshit and dangerous.

Thirded

I'm not surprised at the BBC.

As I've spoken on here a couple of times before about the BBC not tolerating any dissent from trans = a great group of lads.

I've lost count of the number of times I've commented on the BBC website about women's rights being eroded, Keir Starmer and 99.9% of women not having a penis-gate etc etc. All my comments are always deleted by the mods before they even show up. I always appeal but I've been told my comments aren't relevant but in answer to an article discussing Starmers suitability for office I don't see how my comments about him can't be relevant.

Nothing even remotely critical of the whole gender debacle is allowed. I know I'm not the only one either. Hence if you get your news from the BBC everyone looks on board which clearly isn't the case.

Like a PP mentioned I miss a good, reliable sensible public broadcaster as well, but I've come to the conclusion that maybe the BBC always acted as a censor but it's only become apparent in recent years.

This has got to be fought, or at least disinfected with sunlight. It's incredibly sinister. It's like we're living in the Cultural Revolution, ffs. (I mean obviously not, but thought criminals are being punished.)

I second a PP's suggestion to FOI the BBC re their decision making process on this.

I wonder how Anita Rani is doing after all the gushing she did on WH? Hope she's reading smashing articles such as Victoria's

That's a different issue.
I'm as livid about it as everyone else.
I only listen to Lauren Laverne on 6M, I'm trying to think if she's played anything of hers, surely she has in the past.

Victoria Smith in Unherd.

https://unherd.com/thepost/why-the-bbc-had-to-memory-hole-roisin-murphy/