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Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:45

turbonerd · 16/09/2023 17:40

I’m not asking you to explain that @DerekFaker !
It us just a general request for clarification. Maybe @Flounder2022 can?

The Communist Party of Ireland flags?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2023 17:44

You have the right to speak. Others exercised their right to speak - but louder

Yes, that's how misogyny generally works.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2023 17:43

Tell that to the Irish women who didn't get a chance to speak.

If some Irish women didn't get a chance to speak, that's sad, but it sounds from what you're saying that there were too many women for all to be able to speak?

Glinner speaking for a minute will have been invaluable for publicity.

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:42

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:37

@ArabeIIaScott I don't think that at all.

Stand with whoever you want. But I will ask you why. And you will refuse to answer. As is your right. And I can judge your choice to either standing with them knowingly or not bothering to find out who you stand with.

Most of you don't know who we are talking about because for the most part ye have no idea what happens in our country. But fire away, come over with your rallies but don't be surprised when people turn up to drown you out.

Are you not listening to what she is saying? SHE IS NOT STANDING WITH ANYONE. That is YOUR bizarre world view that is group mentality, tribal mentalaity.

Arabella has clearly stated, multiple times, that she was not at the rally, so not physically standing next to ANYONE.

How in the fuck can you keep telling her she is 'standing with' an unkown person? It is BIZARRE. She is an individual women with opinions and beliefs.

turbonerd · 16/09/2023 17:40

I’m not asking you to explain that @DerekFaker !
It us just a general request for clarification. Maybe @Flounder2022 can?

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:40

'The whole point of the protest was stated as trying to drown out women's voices.'

You have the right to speak. Others exercised their right to speak - but louder

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/09/2023 17:40

It's very upsetting to hear that the TRA's shouted, screamed and played 'Murder on the Dancefloor' as women bravely spoke about sexual abuse they had suffered.

Vile people. Don't think much of your mates @CasuirDubh @Flounder2022

Lentili · 16/09/2023 17:38

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turbonerd · 16/09/2023 17:38

DerekFaker · 16/09/2023 17:33

Why were there so many Soviet flags?

And I see Fred the Flasher was there...

Yes, and Lenin’s head on a pink/Blue striped placard.
Just why?

The marxists/leninists were rather fascistic - the dictatorship of the proletariat. And really rather good at silencing, and just plain exterminating, those who disagreed with them.

Tell me why that is an excellent ideology to support trans-ideology?

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:37

@ArabeIIaScott I don't think that at all.

Stand with whoever you want. But I will ask you why. And you will refuse to answer. As is your right. And I can judge your choice to either standing with them knowingly or not bothering to find out who you stand with.

Most of you don't know who we are talking about because for the most part ye have no idea what happens in our country. But fire away, come over with your rallies but don't be surprised when people turn up to drown you out.

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:36

DerekFaker · 16/09/2023 17:33

Why were there so many Soviet flags?

And I see Fred the Flasher was there...

Jesus. This is the problem with (truly) uneducated, self-righteous adult babies who are angry at mum & dad (the state), trying to rebel, and just being completely foolish throughout. History lessons are well needed.

AutumnCrow · 16/09/2023 17:34

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 15:37

I'm curious- why are you here trying to persuade us of our irrelevance?

£10.18 an hour.

DerekFaker · 16/09/2023 17:33

Why were there so many Soviet flags?

And I see Fred the Flasher was there...

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th
ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 17:30

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:26

Speak away. Was anyone stopped from speaking today?

The whole point of the protest was stated as trying to drown out women's voices.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/09/2023 17:29

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 16:48

@ArabeIIaScott I don't. But I do stand for any person to be treated humanely if incarcerated - or anywhere else. And that would include those who burnt out migrants recently in Dublin if they were jailed for their crimes. But I wouldn't invite them to stand beside me and I wouldn't say I didn't care what else they stood for just because they agreed with me on one issue.

So how come you think you get to say who you do and don't stand with, but women aren't afforded the same respect?

Most if us here dont wven know who you're talking about, let alone have 'asked them to stand beside them'.

But you're here to tell us what we believe and try to tar us all with the same brush. It's so dishonest. Maybe if you stopped shouting at women and listened for a change you'd actually learn something and stop making such silly errors?

Coyoacan · 16/09/2023 17:28

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He only talked for a minute at the most, ffs

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:28

Thankfully, no. No one was fascistically told to stop speaking. We can all celebrate the freedom of expression and total opposite of facism that Let Women Speak events represent!

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:26

that sounds a bit fascist to me!

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:26

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:22

Free speech is the complete opposite of fascism. There is no heirarchy, no dictatorship, no control.

Defining who and who is not eligible or worthy of speaking, is closer to facism than free speech. You believe some people are of less value, and therefore should not speak.

in the way you are dealing with this situation, you are more 'fascist' than I.

Tidy up your own home before judging others. Look at yourself before proclaiming someone else is in the wrong.

Where are your ideas incorrect?

Speak away. Was anyone stopped from speaking today?

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:24

I dunno @BlessedKali, maybe it's as simple as saying 'don't come to our rally. You are not welcome here, you do not represent us nor can you stand with us' instead of saying 'if you're far right that's ok'

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:22

Free speech is the complete opposite of fascism. There is no heirarchy, no dictatorship, no control.

Defining who and who is not eligible or worthy of speaking, is closer to facism than free speech. You believe some people are of less value, and therefore should not speak.

in the way you are dealing with this situation, you are more 'fascist' than I.

Tidy up your own home before judging others. Look at yourself before proclaiming someone else is in the wrong.

Where are your ideas incorrect?

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:17

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:15

Yep but I don't have to welcome them when they come to my door. Instead I will turn them away, they are not invited and they are not welcome.

You have that right within your own home, and good for you. If you wish to put on an event that only allows certain people to speak, then go ahead, create it.

This is not your event, this is an event based on the principles of free-speech and (true) inclusivity. So if you don't like that, make your own.

BlessedKali · 16/09/2023 17:16

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 17:12

Well if others in your tribe share this view it explains a lot. Thank you.

Any decent political or social movement takes action when they realise that their group is being infiltrated by fascists. I wondered why the anti-trans movement ignored it but this makes sense.

If you think fascism is legitimate why would you try to stop them from joining your number? You'll live to regret though because fascists famously don't care about women or feminism.

How on earth can I stop someone 'from joining my number'? wht tribe? IT is such a bizarre way to see things. It's this new group think, literally tribalism. I am not part of a tribe, I am not able to stop people from agreeing me on theoritcal principles. I am not a gatekeeper for an idea.

I have not said I think facsim is legitimate, what I have said is I believe most people (other than complete psychopaths) could be reasoned out of such a mentality.

Flounder2022 · 16/09/2023 17:15

Yep but I don't have to welcome them when they come to my door. Instead I will turn them away, they are not invited and they are not welcome.