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Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 20:05

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 19:58

Hasn't your leader threatened both cis and trans women?

I hope you have a good lawyer for that potential defamation.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 20:04

Datun??? Datun are you threatening people? That would be a huge surprise? Datun is direct but she most certainly is not given to threats…

Datun doesn't suffer fools gladly but I refuse to believe she actually threatened anyone!

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 20:03

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 20:00

Yes you do, Graham Linehan.

I think that no one at this point thinks you have anything credible to say.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 20:03

There's no such thing as a "cis woman" as female people are the only women. Sorry, male people don't qualify. Hope this helps.

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 20:02

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 19:58

Hasn't your leader threatened both cis and trans women?

Datun??? Datun are you threatening people? That would be a huge surprise? Datun is direct but she most certainly is not given to threats…

She is also not really our ‘leader’ as such, but we do like to tease her.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 20:00

In the words of the ting tings: that's not my name.

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 20:00

Yes you do, Graham Linehan.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 19:59

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 19:58

Hasn't your leader threatened both cis and trans women?

I don't have a leader, pet.

LizaBizza · 17/09/2023 19:58

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 17:07

Sometimes they threaten to kill and eat us, to be fair.

Hasn't your leader threatened both cis and trans women?

Helleofabore · 17/09/2023 19:49

I suspect at least one of the posters declaring that the women were responsible for the men who turned up, who didn’t speak and just listened without causing any disruption or potential harm, now realises just how fucking misogynistic they were. Some other posters… not so much.

The thing is, of course, some posters who would use that tactic have been shown to be supposed feminists who also prioritise sex over gender. You just can’t assume that they would be extreme trans activists proposing that misogynistic shite.

IwantToRetire · 17/09/2023 19:47

IwantToRetire · 16/09/2023 21:16

So for various different reasons I didn't listen to the live stream so I thought I would come on this thread and hear what women who were there thought, and what women who listened to the live stream thought.

But instead, some people who clearly dont even understand what a Let Women Speak event is about ie NOT a march, have contributed some vague generalities about facists or something.

On one level as LWS goes to a number of countries it could be informative to have those from the area say, I saw X or Y flag and for those who dont know group X stands for (something or other) and group for someother something.

We know there are self rigtheous lefties who love to come and lecture us but do wonder why anyone bothers to reply. After all if they were genuinely interested in having discusion about organising as a left identifying feminist they would have started their own thread.

But they never do.

So I can only conclude that the event was a great sucess, and in the usual sadly envious reaction to a woman who doesn't even claim to be a feminist, they are littering this thread with words like facist in the hope that dim wits on the internet will make some vague association of LWS / KJK as being facist.

In my opinion it would be better not to encourage even more of these totally daft posts by bothering to respond. They will always do it. We dont have to play their game.

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I am not saying this is the best written post, but am really, really, upset that women are allowing themselves to be part of hijacking this thread to talk about complete waffle.

Once the disrupters are evident, just skip over their posts. Most of what they say is complete garbage, talking about leaders and marches. By responding you give them more validity than they actually have.

The result is that your replies as much as the idiocies themselves, are obscuring the opportunity to reflect on what women actually said, and even (although obviously women in Ireland are more than capable of doing this themselves) the opportunity to talk about other meetings.

And lets face, it they aren't going to listen to you anyway, because everytime they come back, almost as if they are non sentient bots, they make the same accusations and achive what they want which is to make a thread pointless for its original aims, and fills the internet and search engines with LWS / KJK linked to words like facism and nazis.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 19:40

Positively reeks, GreatAtuin.

TheGreatATuin · 17/09/2023 19:35

Interesting thread. So large numbers of women turn up to an event called Let Women Speak, and they, and everyone on a feminism board, are somehow responsible and requires to defend the actions and beliefs of a few men who also turned up, weren't invited and didn't speak.
Smells like misogyny to me. Bog standard misogyny.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 19:23

The optics on that are upstanding, for a start.

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 19:21

A penis gantry? That's conjuring interesting images.

MargotBamborough · 17/09/2023 19:14

StephanieSuperpowers · 17/09/2023 19:05

I find the ageism interesting. Yes, soon we'll all be dead. The last bastions of women as a definable, boundaried group will be gone and it'll be freedom for all, utopia achieved.

Except, reality will start biting on some of the persons of bonus hole. Somehow, despite love winning and the right side of history's glorious victory, somehow cervix owners will notice that they're encountering some small difficulties that penis gantries don't. If only there had ever been a movement to try to protect and equalise these things.

Well, never mind.

Yeah, I mean, maybe just maybe the reason why older women don't believe male people can be women is because they've been around the sun a few more times than most people, and have more experience of actually, well, being a woman.

RealityFan · 17/09/2023 19:13

WickedSerious · 17/09/2023 18:52

Consumer of cake in my gran's case.

The revolution will eat itself.

Boiledbeetle · 17/09/2023 19:10

The GRANS:
Grans
Rebelling
Against
Narcissists
Society

StephanieSuperpowers · 17/09/2023 19:05

I find the ageism interesting. Yes, soon we'll all be dead. The last bastions of women as a definable, boundaried group will be gone and it'll be freedom for all, utopia achieved.

Except, reality will start biting on some of the persons of bonus hole. Somehow, despite love winning and the right side of history's glorious victory, somehow cervix owners will notice that they're encountering some small difficulties that penis gantries don't. If only there had ever been a movement to try to protect and equalise these things.

Well, never mind.

BlessedKali · 17/09/2023 18:59

RealityFan · 17/09/2023 18:47

Gran = Adult Human Female and purveyor of cake.

one of these definitions is due to sex, and one is due to gender... Go!

WickedSerious · 17/09/2023 18:52

RealityFan · 17/09/2023 18:47

Gran = Adult Human Female and purveyor of cake.

Consumer of cake in my gran's case.

RealityFan · 17/09/2023 18:47

Gran = Adult Human Female and purveyor of cake.

Boiledbeetle · 17/09/2023 18:44

ArabeIIaScott · 17/09/2023 17:07

Sometimes they threaten to kill and eat us, to be fair.

Why did chianti come to mind?

I don't like wine!

but I do fancy some fava beans!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/09/2023 17:44

Clearly Posie needs to make a "grans for women's rights/mammies for reality" range of t shirts.

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