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Terfs in the House of Lords?

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IwantToRetire · 02/09/2023 20:37

Sensible letter from 25 members of the House of Lords on the offensive use of she to refer to a male criminal in the Telegraph.
https://twitter.com/StoatlyL/status/1697890524785504422

This tweet has the list of signatories https://twitter.com/StoatlyL/status/1697933246707753216

(I have tried to find this on the Telegraph web site but have failed, so sorry for those who find the image of the text hard to read.)

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Changingplace · 02/09/2023 23:08

CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 02/09/2023 23:03

Same here. Twenty years ago I wanted it abolished, thank goodness it's still here.

Same, always thought previously it was a waste of space but I sincerely hope this continues.

CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 02/09/2023 23:03

stealtheatingtunnocks · 02/09/2023 22:33

I am grateful for rhe 2nd chamber and never thought I’d say that

Same here. Twenty years ago I wanted it abolished, thank goodness it's still here.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 02/09/2023 22:33

I am grateful for rhe 2nd chamber and never thought I’d say that

ArabeIIaScott · 02/09/2023 21:58

Good to see.

IwantToRetire · 02/09/2023 21:57

I'm surprised to see those two missing

It may well be that in getting a letter agreed and signed within a day of the article not everybody could be reached. And may be on holiday.

Who knows how many of these independent thinkers there are in the HoL?

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morningtoncrescent62 · 02/09/2023 21:31

A couple of names I'd've expected to see - they've been active in debates on sex and gender - Lord Hunt of Kings Heath and Baroness Fox (I don't know where she's baroness of, better known as Claire Fox of the Battle of Ideas Festival). Good on those who signed, but I'm surprised to see those two missing.

BathTangle · 02/09/2023 21:02

Pleased to see Baroness Deech on the list. I know a little of her social demographic background from many years ago and many similar people are fully signed up TWAW believers.

FrancescaContini · 02/09/2023 20:58

I’m past caring which political party anyone who points out the bleedin’ obvious - that the Emperor is actually naked - belongs to. Well done to all these members of the HoL.

Hoardasurass · 02/09/2023 20:53

Good for them this crap needs to stop.

IcakethereforeIam · 02/09/2023 20:44

Yay, especially to these signatories (who aren't tories)

Baroness Deech KC (Crossbench)
Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab)
Baroness Thornhill (Lib Dem)

cheezncrackers · 02/09/2023 20:44

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

I'm so glad I come from TERF island. Really proud of these members of the HoL for standing up for sense and accuracy in these times of nonsense and lies.

IwantToRetire · 02/09/2023 20:41

Have now found it!

Pronouns in the press

SIR – In your report (<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/Lb9k2/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/30/paedophile-changes-gender-sophie-carter-court/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">August 31) on the sentencing hearing of the convicted paedophile Dominic Carter, you initially called him “she”. We note the reference to “she” was removed from a later version of this story, following hundreds of disapproving comments by your readers.

It is frankly disgraceful that it was ever allowed. The crime was committed by a man, not a woman. The use of she to refer to this man is incredibly offensive to women, and illustrates the problem of accepting that anyone can be any sex they feel they are.

Crucial debates on policy have gone unreported as newspapers and other media failed to address these issues for fear of causing offence and of incurring the wrath of activist lobby groups or even regulators.

Referring to this man, and other male criminals, as women both demeans women and gives credence to the delusion that applying pink nail varnish and a headband makes one a woman.

Your readers deserve better. Journalists must report the truth, without fear or favour.

Baroness Deech KC (Crossbench)
Lord Sandhurst KC (Con)
Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab)
Baroness Thornhill (Lib Dem)
Baroness Fleet (Con)
Baroness Jenkin of Kennington (Con)
Baroness Stedman-Scott (Con)
Lord Wasserman (Con)
Baroness Meyer (Con)
Baroness Hoey (Non-affiliated)
Lord Lucas (Con)
Lord Strathcarron (Con)
Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park (Con)
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne (Con)
Baroness Lea of Lymm (Con)
Lord Roberts of Belgravia (Con)
Baroness Bray of Coln (Con)
Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Con)
Baroness Noakes (Con)
Lord Moylan (Con)
Baroness Foster of Oxton (Con)
Earl of Leicester (Con)
Baroness Eaton (Con)
Baroness Hodgson of Abinger (Con)
Baroness Seccombe (Con)

Towards the end of other letters published https://archive.ph/Lb9k2

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