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Work endometriosis talk

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Endorage · 31/08/2023 20:18

I’ve NC’d because this is very outing and my work is becoming more woke by the day.

This week I have spotted a talk on endometriosis organised by the women’s network. Whoever wrote the blurb has taken stats from a legitimate website and replaced the word ‘women’ with ‘people’ rendering the stats completely invalid.

and then someone has also claimed that men also get endometriosis so this isn’t just a female issue - I’ve looked at the medical literature and it appears that this is vanishingly rare and usually as a complication or prolonged exposure to oestrogen therapies.

I am so over this, why on earth can we not just treat this as the women’s health issue that it is?! Why do we have to shoehorn gender into this? It makes it utter nonsense.

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ArabeIIaScott · 31/08/2023 23:03

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5833878/

https://www.healthline.com/health/can-men-have-endometriosis#short-answer

Oh for the love of fuck:

'“Anyone can have endometriosis,” says Heather Jeffcoat, DPT, author of ”Sex Without Pain: A Self-Treatment Guide To The Sex Life You Deserve.”
However, cisgender women and other people assigned female at birth (AFAB) are much more likely to develop endometriosis than cisgender men and other people assigned male at birth (AMAB).
For reference, endometriosis affects roughly 190 millionTrusted Source reproductive-age women and girls worldwide. There are less than 20Trusted Source documented cases of endometriosis in boys or men.
You’ll notice that the language used to share stats and other data points is pretty binary, fluctuating between the use of “male” and “female” or “men” and “women.”

Although we typically avoid language like this, specificity is key when reporting on research participants and clinical findings.

Unfortunately, the studies and surveys referenced in this article didn’t report data on, or include, participants who were transgender, nonbinary, gender nonconforming, genderqueer, agender, or genderless.'

Endometriosis in a Man as a Rare Source of Abdominal Pain: A Case Report and Review of the Literature

Endometriosis occurs when a tissue resembling endometrial glands and stroma grows in ectopic sites, commonly causing infertility and pain. This condition is most often seen in women of reproductive age, involving pelvic sites such as the ovaries, broad...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5833878

BettyFilous · 31/08/2023 22:59

How can a male get this? The endometrium is the lining of the womb. No womb, no endometrium, no endometriosis surely? Please make this make sense.

Crouton19 · 31/08/2023 22:49

Thank you @Endorage There is next to no information expressly relating to TWs so I'm often searching for research on men with low T, hormone imbalances etc. It turns out hormones are quite important for general health!

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Endorage · 31/08/2023 22:44

@PatatiPatatras i am sorry that you have suffered so much with this awful condition. I’m all for raising awareness in the workplace, just want to be able to talk about women in a biological context. Gender seems irrelevant to the problem.

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Endorage · 31/08/2023 21:12

@Crouton19 the papers I read were talking about oestrogen treatments for prostate cancer, but I assume it’s possible for TW who receive prolonged doses of oestrogen

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PatatiPatatras · 31/08/2023 21:10

😡
Women : it's not just in our heads. We have an actual condition that affects only women that you've failed to recognise for centuries.
Pronoun brigade ( missing the point spectacularly) : you're not that "spechul" - some of us have even rarer conditions.

Just 😡

Crouton19 · 31/08/2023 21:07

Do you have a link to the info about endometriosis in men? Can TWs get this as a result of taking oestrogen?

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Endorage · 31/08/2023 21:04

Who knows 🤷‍♀️but it feels like a missed opportunity to shine a light on women’s reproductive health. But the pronoun brigade are getting right in there.

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XenaEcoWarriorPrincess · 31/08/2023 20:56

Having had endometriosis for years isn't the standard treatment tell the women she's imagining it/is having ovulation/period/UTI pains and tell it's part of life?

Or now that the menz are involved are they actually branching out a bit.

I would assume they are talking about transmen for men but you can never entirely puzzle it out.

No advice, just a eye roll of solidarity.