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Kathleen Stock, Vogue & Bridges - the perfect Sunday morning read

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/08/2023 09:09

A wonderful humorous article in today's Sunday Times about Vogue's inability to find any sportswomen this year to include in their Vogue 25 women "power list". Instead they lauded Emily Bridges and gave Emily space to moan about the unfairness of insisting that women's cycling remains for women & threatening to fight British cycling in the courts & the streets

Well worth a read this Sunday morning (along with articles by Sarah Ditum and Hadley Freeman). Share token to enjoy:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/992bf3e8-43fd-11ee-bf34-ee777f6f2b5b?shareToken=51086949c8a70b63dc73442c3ab8e374

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Hoardasurass · 27/08/2023 10:00

I enjoyed that thanks for the share token @MrsOvertonsWindow

Lottapianos · 27/08/2023 09:58

Kathleen is a great writer, always so enjoyable. I love her description of magazines like Vogue causing a kind of 'panicky self-consciousness bordering on insanity' in the reader 😁

BonfireLady · 27/08/2023 09:57

Fantastic article! A perfect blend of hard-hitting points, intelligence and wit.

I wonder how long it will be until the following (quote from the article) is adopted in real life by the EDI training gurus to improve diversity? Who needs categories, right?

..should we applaud the presence in a race of a Scotsman, an octogenarian, an endomorph or someone born on a Tuesday?

Perhaps Emily could fight for this too, in the courts and in the streets.

7Worfs · 27/08/2023 09:54

Thank you for the share token.

Vogue has been irrelevant for over a decade now. They are lurching from fad to fad trying to look relevant, which is ironic given their name and once-held status as trend-setters/cutting edge/curators of cool.

MavisMcMinty · 27/08/2023 09:52

”Contrary to what Vogue apparently thinks, allowing males to compete in women’s sport doesn’t “diversify” it, just as letting cheetahs run in men’s sprint races wouldn’t diversify male sport.”

Lovely! Thanks for the share token.

nettie434 · 27/08/2023 09:47

Thanks for the link, MrsOvertonsWindow. I enjoyed reading it. It is actually really sad that Vogue chose Emily in a year in which there have been so many examples of women excelling in sport.

CorruptedCauldron · 27/08/2023 09:42

Kathleen absolutely nails it. Vogue has ignored so many great women who could have represented sport in this list, instead choosing to centre an entitled male. I can’t believe more people haven’t opened their eyes to the blatant, almost comedic unfairness of males wanting to compete in women’s sport categories. It’s delusional and exclusionary. Women should not be excluded from their own competitions in order to pander to deluded men.

Random789 · 27/08/2023 09:41

Slightly off-topic, but I'm hoping that the pretty united anger against the Spanish football federation guy (not just for the kiss but for the appalling pressure he put on Hermoso to support and exonerate him) will help to peak a lot of people, because it shows how the issue of transwomen in women's sport sits within such an extreme disregard for women generally, among the various sports bureaucracies.

Hermoso's treatment shows how women in sport are always expected to roll over and facilitate men's interests, making it unsurprising that these bureaucracies happily allow men to steal their competition places and their medals.

Berthatydfil · 27/08/2023 09:39

I read it this morning - utterly marvellous.

Spottybluepyjamas · 27/08/2023 09:37

Brilliant- thank you!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/08/2023 09:33

Sarah Vine has a similar price in the Daily Mail this morning. Emily seems to be peaking lot of people , so : thanks Emily.

ASimpleLobsterHat · 27/08/2023 09:29

Great article, thanks

Teaandscone · 27/08/2023 09:28

Many thanks!