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Vogue - another captured publication?

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 09:20

Vogue magazine has published a piece by Emily Bridges:

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

Full of the usual hogwash and inaccuracies, and the discredited CCES report is doing some heavy lifting.

And apparently they will be trying to take British Cycling to court. We shall see.

I Was Banned From Competitive Cycling Because I’m Trans. That Won’t Stop Me Fighting For My Rights

Cyclist Emily Bridges has been competitively racing since she was 10 years old, but now, due to new policies introduced by British Cycling, she’s been banned from competing in the women’s category.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/emily-bridges-trans-cyclist?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned

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RealityFan · 23/08/2023 23:55

I never fail to be let down by this phenomenon. Not just the obvious queerwashing, the reality denying, the obfuscation, the destruction of free speech and free enquiry.

But more and more I'm looking at the fall out on their side. The toxic self hate that must permeate every fibre of Emily's mum, Jazz Jennings' mum, the previous head of Mermaids. Just when did women, mothers in particular, become such terrible guardians for their children.

And then there's the sheer confusion on the part of the trans individuals themselves. Whatever you might think about your identity, you know as a natal male, especially one where your strength, lung capacity, stamina etc are all way in excess of even the top women in your event, or any parallel situation, that you have an unbreachable advantage. Even if you truly thought you weren't a male, you know that you go out onto the track in the female event already having won gold before you push a pedal in anger.

If you were truly a woman, you couldn't do this to your compatriot sisters.

Of course, there are women happy to rub the noses of other women in the dirt...the drugs cheats etc.

So Emily is shamefully a double cheat, identity and inherent drugs of puberty.

How does this sit with "her" emancipation?

NotBadConsidering · 23/08/2023 23:17

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 20:15

Reality, why be nasty? This is a daft article by the high priests of gender, Vogue. Emily has lovely neat features and nice hair and maybe has electrolysis etc. All magazines airbrush and filter, it's part of the deep misogyny of commercialised gender. Maybe it will even make a few readers briefly consider why being feminine would be important in sport and who benefits.

Because the presentation, the filters, the clothes, the use of Vogue is all part of a deliberate PR campaign to say “look how much of a real woman Emily is, how can anyone possibly say Emily can’t compete in women’s sport? Emily is in Vogue looking gorgeous darling, how can Emily not be a woman?”

It’s designed to trick the casual reader into thinking it’s cruel to let someone looking like that race against men. So calling out the airbrushing and filtering and pointing out the realities of Emily’s appearance - and stature, something that is deliberately hidden in photo shoots like this - isn’t nasty, but entirely necessary.

Baldieheid · 23/08/2023 22:55

JanesLittleGirl · 23/08/2023 22:20

You are probably right. For me, my heart pours purple piss for their loss as they can only recoup that loss at the expense of women.

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Purple piss...that's a magnificent turn of phrase.

I'm sure in many cases of poor sportsmanship like Bridges, actually harming women is one of the drivers for the behaviour. Consciously or not, these fellas hate women.

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 22:51

Baldieheid · 23/08/2023 22:15

My gut instinct is that Bridges is under a heck of a lot of pressure to produce some kind of return on the absolutely huge investment his parents made on his cycling career. I say "his" because that's what he was, at the time. He was a boy whose parents spent thousands, not just on kit, but on travelling to races, to training camps, on accommodation, on food, on bikes, on whatever he needed to progress. It all came to a crashing halt because of a career changing accident.

Common in cycling. Its an utterly pitiless sport.

Based on her twitter behaviour, I'd say that Bridges mum is incandescent with rage about all of it - his accident, his attempt to be a success another way being thwarted...she wants a return on her investment, dammit.

Any parent that has a child competing at a high level in sport spends thousands of pounds to support them - club fees, coaching fees, kit, travel, accommodation, entry fees, training camps, physio, nutrition etc.

Been there, done that (and have my own badges of having gone through all the lengthy training to be an official to support running of the sport).

So many parents want to live vicariously through their child. So many kids come up against a brick wall, whether that’s injury, pressures of trying to balance training with school, reaching their level or just falling out of love with their sport.

Bridges’s mother is on a hiding to nothing. All the world governing bodies of the major sports have stated females only in women’s sport.

She just hasn’t realised it yet.

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JanesLittleGirl · 23/08/2023 22:38

littlbrowndog · 23/08/2023 22:34

And this

The next Vogue cover?

littlbrowndog · 23/08/2023 22:35

So many women athletes they could have chosen. But no the whiny moaner got chosen

littlbrowndog · 23/08/2023 22:34

And this

JanesLittleGirl · 23/08/2023 22:20

Baldieheid · 23/08/2023 22:15

My gut instinct is that Bridges is under a heck of a lot of pressure to produce some kind of return on the absolutely huge investment his parents made on his cycling career. I say "his" because that's what he was, at the time. He was a boy whose parents spent thousands, not just on kit, but on travelling to races, to training camps, on accommodation, on food, on bikes, on whatever he needed to progress. It all came to a crashing halt because of a career changing accident.

Common in cycling. Its an utterly pitiless sport.

Based on her twitter behaviour, I'd say that Bridges mum is incandescent with rage about all of it - his accident, his attempt to be a success another way being thwarted...she wants a return on her investment, dammit.

You are probably right. For me, my heart pours purple piss for their loss as they can only recoup that loss at the expense of women.

Baldieheid · 23/08/2023 22:15

My gut instinct is that Bridges is under a heck of a lot of pressure to produce some kind of return on the absolutely huge investment his parents made on his cycling career. I say "his" because that's what he was, at the time. He was a boy whose parents spent thousands, not just on kit, but on travelling to races, to training camps, on accommodation, on food, on bikes, on whatever he needed to progress. It all came to a crashing halt because of a career changing accident.

Common in cycling. Its an utterly pitiless sport.

Based on her twitter behaviour, I'd say that Bridges mum is incandescent with rage about all of it - his accident, his attempt to be a success another way being thwarted...she wants a return on her investment, dammit.

drhf · 23/08/2023 22:14

I still remember a 2017 article in Vogue spin-off Teen Vogue teaching young girls how to have anal sex.

The article referred to girls as “non-prostate owners”.

It included a diagram purporting to show female (“non-prostate owner”) genital anatomy from which the clitoris was omitted.
https://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/07/20/no-teen-vogue-backlash-anal-sex-article-not-rooted-homophobia/

Vogue’s grasp on feminism has always been self-serving and fatuous, but when it comes to gender, they’re on another level of misogyny.

No, Teen Vogue, the backlash to your anal sex article was not rooted in homophobia

Teen Vogue is not 'woke.' Also, stop saying 'woke.'

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/07/20/no-teen-vogue-backlash-anal-sex-article-not-rooted-homophobia/

RealityFan · 23/08/2023 21:55

JanesLittleGirl · 23/08/2023 21:48

But, when all is said and done, in what way is the beautiful, fragrant and perfectly feminine Emily a someone who should be allowed to complete in the women's class?

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I think the poster may be being facetious. But in TransWorld, you can never be totally sure.

2Rebecca · 23/08/2023 21:50

Has India ever participated in any sport? I doubt it. If women were as fast strong etc as men then the records would be similar where as there is a large difference always on the male side for all records, also the few transwomen who entered women's sports would not have found it as easy to get in to teams and win medals.
It's ridiculous Vogue sees Emily as their favourite woman identifying sports person, but I suspect a Venn diagram of Vogue readers and female athletes has very little overlap between the circles. Bridges is going to need to find something else to do with their life, I think their time in the media spotlight is coming to a close.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 23/08/2023 21:49

If India had a brain they’d be dangerous

of course different sex classes were brought in so men wouldn’t be be upset at always losing….

sorry, but honestly how fucking stupid would you have to be to believe this?

JanesLittleGirl · 23/08/2023 21:48

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 20:15

Reality, why be nasty? This is a daft article by the high priests of gender, Vogue. Emily has lovely neat features and nice hair and maybe has electrolysis etc. All magazines airbrush and filter, it's part of the deep misogyny of commercialised gender. Maybe it will even make a few readers briefly consider why being feminine would be important in sport and who benefits.

But, when all is said and done, in what way is the beautiful, fragrant and perfectly feminine Emily a someone who should be allowed to complete in the women's class?

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 21:46

334bu · 23/08/2023 21:37

India has a really delusional opinion as to why there is a separate category for women in all sports. This was tweeted yesterday.

"Different sex classes in sport were only brought in by the Victorians to spare mens blushes and pride at being beaten by women. Fact. Look it up. Prior to that, no separation. Justified it by saying women were fragile, undignified etc. who believes that "

Quite desperate to prove no difference.

I think there is an “academic” that publishes this sort of crap.

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334bu · 23/08/2023 21:37

India has a really delusional opinion as to why there is a separate category for women in all sports. This was tweeted yesterday.

"Different sex classes in sport were only brought in by the Victorians to spare mens blushes and pride at being beaten by women. Fact. Look it up. Prior to that, no separation. Justified it by saying women were fragile, undignified etc. who believes that "

Quite desperate to prove no difference.

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 21:27

Well, Emily isn't free any more to screw anyone over - they were the catalyst for British Cycling to finally get off their bloody fence and make a decision. Tbh I think Emily's often-expressed worldview was the trigger for all the sport dominos falling in the past year or so. A whole lot of women were suddenly willing to take action, mostly behind the scenes but effectively, and all of a sudden we are in a different world. TRAs fought this one because of what it proves - that TWATW. Whole new world thanks entirely to Emily taking British Cycling's thoughtless off-the-Stonewall-shelf policy at face value and inadvertently tipping over the whole facade. I'm genuinely grateful and genuinely think BC treated Emily badly.

Rudeness about someone's lack of femininity isn't being gender critical.

CrazyArmadilloLady · 23/08/2023 21:12

PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 20:15

Reality, why be nasty? This is a daft article by the high priests of gender, Vogue. Emily has lovely neat features and nice hair and maybe has electrolysis etc. All magazines airbrush and filter, it's part of the deep misogyny of commercialised gender. Maybe it will even make a few readers briefly consider why being feminine would be important in sport and who benefits.

We must #bekind but Emily is free to screw over whoever crosses their path…..

RealityFan · 23/08/2023 20:35

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PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2023 20:15

Reality, why be nasty? This is a daft article by the high priests of gender, Vogue. Emily has lovely neat features and nice hair and maybe has electrolysis etc. All magazines airbrush and filter, it's part of the deep misogyny of commercialised gender. Maybe it will even make a few readers briefly consider why being feminine would be important in sport and who benefits.

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NitroNine · 23/08/2023 20:02

Was it not Bridges who was racing in both categories at one point? And still doing well in the men’s, I mean. Just, perhaps, not well enough for an Olympic spot?

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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 18:55

Willoughby now piling onto Amelia Strickler, and trying to get sponsors to cancel her.

What a prize wanker.

It’s little wonder that current athletes keep their heads down and their silence is taken for “support”.

Vogue - another captured publication?
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SabrinaThwaite · 23/08/2023 17:11

I’ve just added it to archive.ph if you want to read the full article.

Meanwhile Sandy is trying to get into it with Amelia Strickler on Twitter. Amelia is having none of it. Sandy resorting to telling Amelia that she has an advantage through her physical attributes and ability to train hard. Well duh!

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