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turbonerd · 23/08/2023 08:22

Well done the woman in the article. I hope a crowdfunder raised those €82 and more.

Just noticed this at the bottom of the article. I could not bear to click on the link:

This comes just days after protests against femicide erupted in yet another Balkan nation, Bosnia, after a bodybuilder livestreamed his ex-wife’s executionto 12,000 on Instagram.

Bodybuilder livestreams ex-wife’s execution on Instagram

At least 12,000 people watched her murder, with some leaving supportive comments for her killer.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/08/17/bosnian-bodybuilder-livestreams-ex-wifes-execution-on-instagram-19344735/?ico=trending-module_author_gergana-krasteva_item-3

FrancescaContini · 23/08/2023 08:16

The judge said she “exceeded the necessity for self defence” - WTAF??

Ofcourseshecan · 22/08/2023 18:08

Brokendaughter · 22/08/2023 13:58

One night (in the UK) when I was pregnant enough that it was obvious to anyone, I was working on my computer with headphones on, thought I heard something & turned around.

There was a strange man standing in the doorway of my study who had kicked my door in.

I freaked out, grabbed a sculpture that sat on my desk in one hand, the phone in the other, dialled 999 & threw the sculpture at him.

He grabbed my phone & ran off.

It turned out he'd broken in convinced his girlfriend was in the house cheating as she'd parked her car directly outside my house, freaked out when he realised he'd made a mistake & ran away panicking.

The police gave me a massive lecture that he could have pressed charges if I'd hurt him when I threw the sculpture and how I should not have been so aggressive because it would be assault.

They let him go without any charges telling me it would be unfair to give him a criminal record (they seemed to think his belief his girlfriend was cheating was justification enough for what he did) & I had to pay to get my own front door fixed.
I still have the sculpture (had to get part of it glued back on as it chipped when it landed on the floor).

I'd throw it again.

That's not even my worst personal experience of how little the Police give a fuck about female victims.

God almighty. Police tell a pregnant woman she could be convicted of assault for throwing an object at a threatening intruder.

Of course you should wait politely to see if he is going to physically assault you. You may miscarry, you may be raped, disabled or killed. But at least you won’t get a criminal record.

God almighty.

JanieEyre · 22/08/2023 18:04

Brokendaughter · 22/08/2023 13:58

One night (in the UK) when I was pregnant enough that it was obvious to anyone, I was working on my computer with headphones on, thought I heard something & turned around.

There was a strange man standing in the doorway of my study who had kicked my door in.

I freaked out, grabbed a sculpture that sat on my desk in one hand, the phone in the other, dialled 999 & threw the sculpture at him.

He grabbed my phone & ran off.

It turned out he'd broken in convinced his girlfriend was in the house cheating as she'd parked her car directly outside my house, freaked out when he realised he'd made a mistake & ran away panicking.

The police gave me a massive lecture that he could have pressed charges if I'd hurt him when I threw the sculpture and how I should not have been so aggressive because it would be assault.

They let him go without any charges telling me it would be unfair to give him a criminal record (they seemed to think his belief his girlfriend was cheating was justification enough for what he did) & I had to pay to get my own front door fixed.
I still have the sculpture (had to get part of it glued back on as it chipped when it landed on the floor).

I'd throw it again.

That's not even my worst personal experience of how little the Police give a fuck about female victims.

The police were talking absolute rubbish. If you had hurt the man and they had been stupid enough to charge you, I suspect the CPS would have dropped it. This is fairly and squarely within the limits of reasonable defence.

Boiledbeetle · 22/08/2023 18:00

Brokendaughter · 22/08/2023 13:58

One night (in the UK) when I was pregnant enough that it was obvious to anyone, I was working on my computer with headphones on, thought I heard something & turned around.

There was a strange man standing in the doorway of my study who had kicked my door in.

I freaked out, grabbed a sculpture that sat on my desk in one hand, the phone in the other, dialled 999 & threw the sculpture at him.

He grabbed my phone & ran off.

It turned out he'd broken in convinced his girlfriend was in the house cheating as she'd parked her car directly outside my house, freaked out when he realised he'd made a mistake & ran away panicking.

The police gave me a massive lecture that he could have pressed charges if I'd hurt him when I threw the sculpture and how I should not have been so aggressive because it would be assault.

They let him go without any charges telling me it would be unfair to give him a criminal record (they seemed to think his belief his girlfriend was cheating was justification enough for what he did) & I had to pay to get my own front door fixed.
I still have the sculpture (had to get part of it glued back on as it chipped when it landed on the floor).

I'd throw it again.

That's not even my worst personal experience of how little the Police give a fuck about female victims.

So if your aim had been better you'd have been in actual trouble whilst the man who broke down the door stole your phone and scared the shit out of a pregnant women in her own home got off with a telling off!

Fuck me!

Helleofabore · 22/08/2023 17:54

Brokendaughter · 22/08/2023 13:58

One night (in the UK) when I was pregnant enough that it was obvious to anyone, I was working on my computer with headphones on, thought I heard something & turned around.

There was a strange man standing in the doorway of my study who had kicked my door in.

I freaked out, grabbed a sculpture that sat on my desk in one hand, the phone in the other, dialled 999 & threw the sculpture at him.

He grabbed my phone & ran off.

It turned out he'd broken in convinced his girlfriend was in the house cheating as she'd parked her car directly outside my house, freaked out when he realised he'd made a mistake & ran away panicking.

The police gave me a massive lecture that he could have pressed charges if I'd hurt him when I threw the sculpture and how I should not have been so aggressive because it would be assault.

They let him go without any charges telling me it would be unfair to give him a criminal record (they seemed to think his belief his girlfriend was cheating was justification enough for what he did) & I had to pay to get my own front door fixed.
I still have the sculpture (had to get part of it glued back on as it chipped when it landed on the floor).

I'd throw it again.

That's not even my worst personal experience of how little the Police give a fuck about female victims.

Well done!

That is horrific that the police lectured you and that they went for such leniency. Obviously, pregnant women are not high on the list of people who should be protected from your story. While I disagree with people taking action such as shooting a gun at someone or knowingly taking action that will result in death, there seems to be a lack of symmetry in some cases.

WickedSerious · 22/08/2023 17:27

I'd give her a medal.

Rightsraptor · 22/08/2023 14:04

Good woman. We should all be more like her.

When I did some self defence in the UK, we were told that you never tell the police or the court about your training if you need to use it. You're just stronger than you look and you got lucky that you managed to knock the bastard out. This was the police telling us that.

OK, maybe don't say lucky either.

Brokendaughter · 22/08/2023 13:58

One night (in the UK) when I was pregnant enough that it was obvious to anyone, I was working on my computer with headphones on, thought I heard something & turned around.

There was a strange man standing in the doorway of my study who had kicked my door in.

I freaked out, grabbed a sculpture that sat on my desk in one hand, the phone in the other, dialled 999 & threw the sculpture at him.

He grabbed my phone & ran off.

It turned out he'd broken in convinced his girlfriend was in the house cheating as she'd parked her car directly outside my house, freaked out when he realised he'd made a mistake & ran away panicking.

The police gave me a massive lecture that he could have pressed charges if I'd hurt him when I threw the sculpture and how I should not have been so aggressive because it would be assault.

They let him go without any charges telling me it would be unfair to give him a criminal record (they seemed to think his belief his girlfriend was cheating was justification enough for what he did) & I had to pay to get my own front door fixed.
I still have the sculpture (had to get part of it glued back on as it chipped when it landed on the floor).

I'd throw it again.

That's not even my worst personal experience of how little the Police give a fuck about female victims.

Helleofabore · 22/08/2023 13:37

What an amazing woman! She did brilliantly to defend herself at all. The judge punished her for being a victim. Apparently she should not have learned skills that she should never have had to deployed let alone learned to do it with just enough strength to get away … or something…. Really deplorable judgement .

BettyFilous · 22/08/2023 12:38

€82 fine vs sexual assault and all that goes with that? No brainer. It’s still an appalling decision by the judge.

ArabeIIaScott · 22/08/2023 12:03

Poor woman; and also brave woman!

A horrific decision, but I'm glad to hear that there's been pushback, from the public and from the government:

'Thousands of people, mostly women, took to the streets in larger cities in protest against sexual violence across the Balkan country in a sign of solidarity with Milica.
Prime minister Dritan Abazović even issued a statement about the court’s decision calling it ‘unfortunately devastating’.
He stressed: ‘I regret that such examples confirm how necessary we need changes in the judiciary and prosecutor’s office.’'

caramac04 · 22/08/2023 11:58

What the hell is wrong with that judge????
I hope that if I were attacked I would knock out the attacker. I’d probably give him a good kick or two when he was down as well. What a monster I am.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 22/08/2023 11:45

‘Of course, I have received negative comments, mostly from women who should be my biggest supporters, but sadly we are not all the same.’

This stood out to me.

q109times · 22/08/2023 11:03

Insanity. When will judges act fairly ffs? X

NotMeekNotObedient · 22/08/2023 11:02

Awful.
And yes, the linked story is also horrific.

CantThinkOfANameAtAll · 22/08/2023 11:00

I can't read it. But will this bring about the old saying of "may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb*". I guess that's one way to ensure clearing the world of these abominations, saves the state having to look after them. What did the attacker get?

*: If you are going to be killed for stealing a lamb, then why not steal a sheep (which is bigger and more valuable)? In general, it means that if you are going to get the same punishment, you may as well commit the greater offence.

OutsideLookingOut · 22/08/2023 10:52

Maybe an unpopular opinion but I think it’s fine to hate a belief system/religion and you should be allowed to do so as long you don’t discriminate against the followers ie right to have an opinion and will fight for you to have that right.

This is crazy though. I hope the fine will be removed.

mrshoho · 22/08/2023 10:48

Well done that woman. I'd happily contribute to pay her fine!

enchantedsquirrelwood · 22/08/2023 10:46

You are going to get yourself banned Hally.

This is outrageous but doesn't surprise me. It could well happen here as well.

Ohthatsabitshit · 22/08/2023 10:45

What a fabulous woman.

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Bootskates · 22/08/2023 10:43

Love that she knocked him out I hope he learned something that day.

Disgusting that she was fined.

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