Inclusive Disabled toilets

Someone should tell them that changing the bloody signs all the time is NOT inclusive. Some of us can’t use the other toilets even when we are feeling uncomfortable. On the other hand it’s going to be interesting listening to ds loudly pondering why they are dressed as they are.

Blimey! I'd have been banging on the door and shouting at him!

I was in a queue for a public lavatory by the sea. I was in a very tricky bit of sports kit that was going to take a while to wrestle out of so let the man behind me in the queue go ahead of me, thinking, I'd manoeuvre out of what I could (and still be decent in public) in the brief time he'd take.

Nothing but flushing noises.

30mins later, his wife came up and said, "He's got OCD. He'll be flushing for a while yet." I had to leave because she couldn't coax him out.

I always think of the small service stations that have one single unisex toilet. They are vile to use - always stink of urine and often have skid marks left in. They just feel 'grubby'

By 'neutral' do you mean 'mixed sex'?

Transmen are not a danger to women in the ladies loos though.

ds is disabled and things like this really worry me, accessing toilets is hard enough as it is without making them a free for all.

we where are a service station last week which had a sign like this on the door of the one accessible toilet. That toilet was at the top of the corridor into the ladies toilets at a point where when outside the door you were basically in the ladies. That’s not fair either in the ladies going in or on 13 year old DS (or any other men) trying to access the disabled toilet.

it’s not solving problems it’s causing them

It’s not just men that are trans?
I do agree that it’s unfair on disabled people, my dd is disabled and we use disabled loos when we need too, but maybe there’s also a need for inclusive toilets. I have noticed more places now have individual unisex toilets.

Why?

Sod that! I’m uncomfortable using any public toilet, that doesn’t mean I’d co-opt a toilet specifically for people with disabilities. Last time I looked, having hurt feels isn’t an actual disability.

All toilets should be neutral, plus at least one for those with a disability.

DS (just 13) looked at the image in the OP and said 'That's not inclusive, it's intrusive!' I think he's hit the nail on the head.
But just as I was thinking he was being quite mature, he showed me the image below. Sorry to lower the tone

If this leads to more places putting in a third space toilet, I'd like to think it might lead to more loos that are accessible to more people.

This only works if places introduce a lockable single cubical which is bigger than usual etc, but I'd like to hope that the greater demand for such a space will tip them into being practical for more places.

@NitroNineThat's fine, as long as the parent or person with the children is actually disabled. Sometimes people who aren't will take small children who are of the opposite sex to them into the disabled, possibly because they don't want the children to be in the wrong bathroom. So they're pretty much using it as like a "family room" would be. But then they could be tying it up for when someone actually disabled comes along to use it.

Hard enough navigating my ample arse round some women's toilets let alone a wheelchair. What on earth did he expect you to do?

Often people who need to use an accessible toilet need to do so urgently and in comfort. A big line forming outside gender neutral/accessible/baby changing toilet is going to be spectacularly unhelpful for everyone really.

Did anyone watch the Barbie movie? When Mattel CEO made a speech about how they'd tried to make Mattel more inclusive and introduced gender neutral toilets. If you heard someone guffawing/choking in the cinema - it was me.

I think when you’re using the disabled loo for yourself it makes perfect sense - & in many cases is the only possible solution - to have any [very] small humans you’re looking after use it [then] too.

No you weren’t wrong. You are in a wheelchair. I use a walking stick. sometimes I feel fine to use the average toilet. Some days I’m dizzy and unbalanced and the disabled toilet is a better choice. I’d take my little granddaughters, or little grandsons if they were with me, into the disabled toilet too.

Some disabilities are not visual, as you mentioned. Someone may be emptying a bag. Who knows? We shouldn’t have to explain ourselves.

Mummumgem · Yesterday 21:50

When I came out, yes I suppose we were in there 5 minutes or so, but 3 wee’s and hand washing !, a man was waiting to go in, he had a right go at me for taking so long.

Just a general, able-bodied man? Why did he need to use the disabled toilets? He didn't and even if he was disabled, he had no right to speak to you like that.

I can't imagine having a go at anyone coming out of a toilet, least of all someone in a wheelchair who is 'obviously disabled'

I try not to judge because of hidden disabilities etc but the fact you clearly have a need means that guy was extra out of order for saying that to you.

They are for anyone who doesn’t feel comfortable using the men’s or ladies toilets.

im disabled, in a wheelchair, out shopping with my son and two granddaughters 4 and 6, son went into the men’s, and of course the girls chose that moment to be desperate so I said no problem I do too so took them into the disabled loo with me. Not the first time I’ve done this. We have it down to a fine art now 😂😂. When I came out, yes I suppose we were in there 5 minutes or so, but 3 wee’s and hand washing !, a man was waiting to go in, he had a right go at me for taking so long. I apologised, he could have medical issues 🤷🏼‍♀️, so understanding I had kept him waiting. But he had a right go, said it was his right not to have to use the men’s and he wasn’t allowed in the ladies, I shouldn’t have taken the girls in with me.

makes me nervous if out with the girls again, was I wrong , my son says no

I noticed this at my local leisure centre too. The previously disabled / accessible loo (which incidentally also has the baby change) now has a gender neutral sign too.

I did look at the door and think what impact that could have on someone who really needed an accessible toilet.

As I said, I was being generous in my interpretation.

Provided that they are disabled.