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So apparently I am a hateful bigot. Who knew?!

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NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 21:59

This has been playing on my mind since it happened. In a pub on Thursday night just gone. Very old building - toilets not great. No separate mens/ladies. Go through one door and there are 3 cubicles for all. Everyone has to queue together in this very small space. Big queue - a 6 foot 4 ish man with a beard wearing a flowery blue dress and lipstick, who was stood behind me, suggested that we speed things up by "us girls" going in together. I refused. That led to a tirade of abuse including that I was a hateful old bigot and it was known that 'girls' always shared a loo. Obviously he told all his pals at the table he was sat at, and they loudly discussed my transphobia until I necked my drink and left. It has been bothering me ever since! Just sharing/venting more than anything.

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AvengedQuince · 19/08/2023 22:23

Tanith · 19/08/2023 22:19

Better a hateful bigot than an altruistic rape victim.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if he is wearing a dress, he is still a male stranger and who locks themselves in a cubicle with any male stranger?😕 It's not transphobic because you are not treating him any different to any other male because of how he identifies.

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 19/08/2023 22:22

@Babysharkdoodoodood ha ha ha NO! Hmm No way!

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:22

Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/08/2023 22:21

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Yes - just like that!

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misogynyisbigotry · 19/08/2023 22:22

Big queue - a 6 foot 4 ish man with a beard wearing a flowery blue dress and lipstick, who was stood behind me, suggested that we speed things up by "us girls" going in together. I refused. That led to a tirade of abuse including that I was a hateful old bigot and it was known that 'girls' always shared a loo. Obviously he told all his pals at the table he was sat at, and they loudly discussed my transphobia until I necked my drink and left.

Interesting that none of his pals challenged HIM on his bigoted misogyny (implying that women are fucking stupid) and transphobia (implying that trans people are unavoidably bullies/weirdos).

I've heard the claim - not from actual trans people, but from "allies" advocating from within a dark paper bag or a dark man cave - that women somehow naturally and unavoidably go to the loo together as an argument against restoring women's toilets to their original and hard-won same sex status. Apparently transwomen who pass perfectly would be outed because they couldn't go to the loo with their women friends. I assumed they meant the transwomen would have to go inside the women's loo to gossip with the group and trade lipsticks, not that anyone was sharing a stall, but who knows? 😝

RealityFan · 19/08/2023 22:21

Two sins here.
The obvious one.
And also, queue jumping.
That's so not British, lol.

Seriously, good on you. I can see and hoc policing by the public starting to become more common.

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:21

turbonerd - fascist, no! I was called a hag, hateful and 'a danger' by his pals.

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Snippit · 19/08/2023 22:21

So I presume he still has a cock! So technically he’s a bloke. What is wrong with these people, it’s political correctness gone wrong, and it’s us women yet again that cop for it. It makes me soo ANGRY!

Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/08/2023 22:21

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So apparently I am a hateful bigot.  Who knew?!
PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 19/08/2023 22:21

I have NEVER shared a loo with anyone. YANBU to have not wanted to do this @NoChanceYouMetalBastard

JanesLittleGirl · 19/08/2023 22:21

It is a well known fact that the only thing that two men can do that two women can't is to pee in the same bucket at the same time. Apparently, not all TWs know this.

turbonerd · 19/08/2023 22:20

He’s a chancer and a right creepy fucker trying to shame you into accepting him into the loo with you!
What an abusive mindset he displayed.

Am well impressed you stood your ground.

I celebrate your bigot-Ness 💐💐
Did you by any chance luck out on being called a fascist or a nazi too?

Or an actual lgbtq+++killer?

I only had that on Facebook, which was scary enough, so I hope you weren’t. But it is not impossible sadly.

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:20

Tanith · 19/08/2023 22:19

Better a hateful bigot than an altruistic rape victim.

I do think it was more that he wanted validation than anything else. Just two girls sharing a loo, like we all apparently do...

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Tanith · 19/08/2023 22:19

Better a hateful bigot than an altruistic rape victim.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 19/08/2023 22:19

Like this?

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:17

Weird isn’t it

I used to wonder who would choose to sit side by side with their mate and have a wee! Although maybe their conversation was just so exciting that it couldn't wait!

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 19/08/2023 22:16

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:15

There is one of those in a pub in my town too!

Weird isn’t it

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:16

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You think I am making it up? What a strange thing for me to fabricate. How boring my life must be!

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RufustheFactualReindeer · 19/08/2023 22:16

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No

deffo two toilets in the same cubicle

Wimpeyspread · 19/08/2023 22:16

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charming!

FiddleLeaf · 19/08/2023 22:15

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NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:15

RufustheFactualReindeer · 19/08/2023 22:14

There is a club in the nearest city to me that has two toilets in one cubicle in the ladies loo

There is one of those in a pub in my town too!

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Badgaston · 19/08/2023 22:15

How creepy! I’ve only shared a loo with my female children. I wouldn’t share a loo with a female random stranger yet alone a male stranger.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 19/08/2023 22:14

There is a club in the nearest city to me that has two toilets in one cubicle in the ladies loo

NoChanceYouMetalBastard · 19/08/2023 22:14

MotherEarthisaTerf · 19/08/2023 22:14

He was probably hoping you'd ask him for a tampon.

Ugh, don't!

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MotherEarthisaTerf · 19/08/2023 22:14

He was probably hoping you'd ask him for a tampon.