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Almut Gadow v Open University (again)

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Signalbox · 18/08/2023 11:20

Obviously I can't link to the crowdfund but this is the text and google is your friend :)

My name is Almut Gadow. For almost 10 years, I taught law at the Open University. I was dismissed for questioning new requirements to indoctrinate students in gender identity theory, in ways which, I felt, distorted equality law and normalised child sexual exploitation.
I am bringing an employment tribunal claim arguing that I was harassed, discriminated against, and unfairly dismissed because I reject gender ideology and believe in academic freedom, and that this breached human rights protections for academic free expression.
Who am I?
I grew up in a family of thought criminals. My grandfather was an undergraduate when the Nazis cleansed academia of wrongthinkers and their ideas. Rather than continue at an ideologically compliant university, he completed his studies at an illicit underground institution. He was then repeatedly tried for speech crimes and eventually sentenced to death by hanging ‘for destructive behaviour through statements in sermons and in dealing with [Nazi] party material’.
I see free speech as a distinguishing feature between democracy and totalitarianism, not a battleground between left and right. My family has seen both German dictatorships, the fascist and the socialist, right and left, suppress speech and purge academia of dissent and dissenters. I hope my daughter can one day go to a university that does not eliminate wrongthink(ers).
My story
In 2021/22 the Open University’s Equality, Diversity and Inclusion department announced plans to incorporate its political ideologies into ‘all current curriculum’. The law degree on which I taught was redesigned around a ‘core theme’ of ‘liberating the curriculum’, reflecting these ideologies.
Criminal law tutors were told that, to ‘liberate the curriculum’, our classes now had to introduce diverse gender identities and teach students to use offenders’ preferred pronouns. I questioned if incorporating gender identity theory might be an unnecessary distraction or even unwise. I described gender theory as hotly contested, and as recently developed in wealthy Western countries. I pointed out that (not) believing in gender identity is a protected religious or philosophical belief under the Equality Act 2010, and said law tutorials are no place to promote one's beliefs.
I also highlighted some of the implications of describing offenders according to self-identified gender in our work. I said a criminal lawyer’s role is to present facts, that sex is a relevant fact for offences involving perpetrators’ and/or victims’ bodies, and that no offender should be allowed to dictate the language of his case in a way which masks relevant facts. I said an assailant’s language about himself and his offence should not automatically be adopted over his victim’s, and that lawyers and courts sometimes need to describe offenders in terms with which the latter might not agree – calling the innocent-identifying perpetrator ‘guilty’, or the trans-identifying male ‘he’.
When I raised these questions, in an online forum for law tutors to discuss what they teach, management had no answers. Months later, they were cited as reasons for my dismissal. Managers spuriously alleged that my ‘unreasonable questions’ had created an environment which ‘isn’t inclusive, trans-friendly or respectful’, thus violating the transgender staff policy and codes of conduct. In fact, I had broken no lawful rule by probing the academic soundness of what I was expected to teach.
I further incurred the wrath of the curriculum liberators when I asked them to define their key concepts such as ‘LGBTQ+’. It had become apparent to me that some treated ‘minor attraction’ (i.e. paedophilia) as part of the ‘diverse sexualities and gender identities’ Open University law teaching now seeks to ‘centre’. The criminal law module culminated in an assignment in which students had to discuss a relationship between an adult and a minor. Students would gain marks by describing child and adult as each other’s ‘boyfriends’, but lose marks if they considered whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence.
My request for clarification was spuriously described as further misconduct. Curriculum liberators complained that it had made them feel undermined, harassed, bullied and reputationally damaged. In fact, asking colleagues to explain core concepts of their output is just part of everyday academic work, but curriculum liberators were unable to do so here.
My legal case
Assisted at no cost by the Free Speech Union, I am launching a legal claim in the Employment Tribunal. I am arguing that I have been unfairly dismissed, harassed, and discriminated against because I reject gender ideology and believe in academic freedom. My case raises complex points of human rights, academic freedom, free expression and equality law.
‘Academic free expression’ is at the heart of my tribunal case. This concept, set out in a string of judgments of the European Court of Human Rights, encapsulates how article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights protects academic freedom – not least by prohibiting universities from penalising academics for questioning our institutions or curricula. UK courts have yet to properly consider ECtHR case law on academic free expression. In seeking judicial guidance on this from an English employment tribunal, my case can hopefully entrench these protections in domestic law.
I will also argue that valuing academic freedom is, in itself, a protected belief under the Equality Act. Establishing this in law could protect many other academics whose careers are threatened by the rising tide of intolerance on UK campuses.
Why I need your help
I am crowdfunding to support my employment tribunal claim against the Open University. Akua Reindorf KC, whose name has become almost synonymous with her ground-breaking work on the academic freedom of gender critical academics, will represent me in the tribunal. However, a legal challenge of this type requires an enormous amount of work, which needs to be funded.
The likely total cost of funding this claim up to trial will be around £250,000. Rather than raise the full amount now, I will ‘stretch’ the target as the claim proceeds. This will allow me to provide accurate cost estimates, and will avoid raising more money than I need in order to fund the claim.
Although litigation can be unpredictable, I plan to raise funds at three milestones:

  • Milestone one: £70,000 to cover the cost of the preliminary hearing, disclosure of documents and preparation of a trial bundle.
  • Milestone two: £90,000 covering the drafting of witness statements, potential applications to the Tribunal and for contingency costs in the run-up to trial.
  • Milestone three: £90,000 for the cost of trial including preparation.
All figures include VAT and estimated counsel’s fees. Once the initial target is met, funds raised will be transferred to the Free Speech Union which will hold the money in trust for the payment of fees as they arise. Any unused funds will be returned to CrowdJustice in accordance with its terms. I will update this page throughout to inform you of the progress of my case. If you can, please consider donating, or sharing this page.
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2023 21:57

Also no one accused you of having a "secret grooming agenda", so please stop misrepresenting people just because they don't agree with your personal interpretation of Almut's claims.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2023 21:45

To repost, I'm not saying that you are not employed in the post you are in @astoufo and I'm not accusing you of trolling if that's why my post was deleted, I just don't see why you think your opinion is the last word. I don't think you're particularly well informed about the subject in question given that you didn't seem to understand a 17 year old can be a victim of CSE. and the only person I've seen mentioning a "paedophile cabal" is you, so don't put words into other people's mouths, please.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2023 21:39

Wow, someone has a fast reporting finger.

OldCrone · 22/08/2023 21:38

Surely if they are risk averse they wouldn't fire an employee with no good reason, risking being sued for unfair dismissal, just because a bunch of anonymous people on the internet said that they should.

OldCrone · 22/08/2023 21:36

I think TRAs are rarely the most senior people in the university or department though, probably more likely to be early career overall. University management also tend to be far less ideological but are often very risk averse and easily swayed by online mobs.

So you think that the university management was 'swayed by online mobs' which persuaded them to fire a tutor who had been employed by the university for 10 years? Is that how universities operate now?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2023 21:28

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aweegc · 22/08/2023 19:44

I did an OU module, level 3, about 3 years ago that had been partly written by Meg-John Barker (quite a few others involved too). I was extremely pissed off. It referred students to MJB's personal web page and to explore the content. There was a video discussion on the module page in which MJB talked about the importance of consent AND that rape victims didn't really have a problem with trans women and if they did, they needed to be educated (or something similarly contradictory).

It was so pro "sex work" too. There were female students on that module who said in a FB group discussing how illuminating the module was, that before doing the module they'd never have considered doing sex work. Having learnt so much they'd now had their eyes and minds opened and now they would be open to doing it/wouldn't rule it out if they needed cash.

Slow. Fucking. Clap. Module. Creators.

Other parts of that module were great, but I was really fed up of the nonsense opinion used in place of academic argument. If id submitted an assignment using some of the reasoning "techniques" MJB used, I'd have had "red pen" all over it.

I've come across other students from maths and engineering modules wondering why they have gender and sexuality in their modules. They don't wonder it too loudly though.

Astoufo · 22/08/2023 19:28

RealityFan · 22/08/2023 18:50

I'm as GC as the next person, and it is easy to fall into conspiracy tropes. My Christian friend says this is Satan filling the vacuum left by the West abandoning Christianity. My nihilist atheist friend says it's Cultural Marxist long march thru the professions/institutions.

I've pondered this all, and feel it's more a collection of well educated idiots at the top of institutions who've been seduced by # BeKind, feeling there's unresolved social justice still left to be done, on behalf of trans in particular.

The motives may be pure and good, but their sat nav has changed destination from greater freedoms for all minorities put upon, to a dystopia where the 51% group have literally been left to fend for themselves.

And the problem as this area has gone viral over the last decade is that it's self generating, fuelling herd mentality, and constant pressure to champion trans.

And where is this constant pressure most likely to manifest itself? Academia.

My experience is more that there’s a few very hardline TRAs in academia who basically bully people into not objecting to their various stupid positions in public. I’d say the vast majority of my colleagues do not really believe- as you say there’s just a big social pressure to conform.

I think TRAs are rarely the most senior people in the university or department though, probably more likely to be early career overall. University management also tend to be far less ideological but are often very risk averse and easily swayed by online mobs. Universities are basically businesses so they act like any corporate centre and move to protect the brand and revenue streams.

So from my experience, I’d say that it’s a lot less uniform and dystopian than maybe things can seem from the outside. All you hear are the bad stories. They happen, that’s real, but it’s not the whole picture. Academics are definitely prone to going along with things framed as social justice or progressive, and also are often very career driven and so don’t rock the boat. That’s definitely made universities vulnerable to the TRA nonsense. I think most of the support for those ideas is pretty superficial though, beyond the real ideologues.

JodyMitchell · 22/08/2023 19:26

@Sw66tP6a
I am a university lecturer.

68% is in no way a ‘staggeringly low’ mark.

Lecturers have 3 weeks to mark assignments, not 2.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 22/08/2023 19:17

I don’t think any of it is a grand conspiracy, just a bunch of safeguarding loopholes and a bucket full of Be Kind that somehow renders those loopholes invisible.

When you let the EDI vampire into your org the lifeblood gets sucked out of it.

duc748 · 22/08/2023 19:15

The Christians weren't all that, though. And they've always (mostly) hated women.

Like @MrsOvertonsWindow , this quote jumped out at me:

"a criminal law module culminated in an assignment in which students had to discuss a relationship between an adult and a minor. Students would gain marks by describing child and adult as each other’s ‘boyfriends’, but lose marks if they considered whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence".

I mean, WTAF?

Transparent2 · 22/08/2023 19:06

My Christian friend says this is Satan filling the vacuum left by the West abandoning Christianity.

I wouldn't quite put it that way, but I do think the decline of Christianity in the west has left a vacuum, and postmodern thinking of "your truth" and "my truth" makes it very easy for a quasi-religious belief to fill it.

RealityFan · 22/08/2023 18:50

Astoufo · 22/08/2023 18:32

I guess it’s a lot easier to believe that secret pedophile cabals are taking over somewhere when it’s not your actual workplace being talked about, complete with boring meetings, annoying email chains and mundane policies about how to improve student outcomes. Maybe this is how it felt to work at that pizza place in Washington!

I would have thought that such extraordinary claims would need extraordinary evidence, but instead it seems like anything I say is somehow taken as proof that I have a secret grooming agenda or something. 🤷‍♀️

If anyone is interested in looking at the actual assessment then feel free to DM me.

I'm as GC as the next person, and it is easy to fall into conspiracy tropes. My Christian friend says this is Satan filling the vacuum left by the West abandoning Christianity. My nihilist atheist friend says it's Cultural Marxist long march thru the professions/institutions.

I've pondered this all, and feel it's more a collection of well educated idiots at the top of institutions who've been seduced by # BeKind, feeling there's unresolved social justice still left to be done, on behalf of trans in particular.

The motives may be pure and good, but their sat nav has changed destination from greater freedoms for all minorities put upon, to a dystopia where the 51% group have literally been left to fend for themselves.

And the problem as this area has gone viral over the last decade is that it's self generating, fuelling herd mentality, and constant pressure to champion trans.

And where is this constant pressure most likely to manifest itself? Academia.

Astoufo · 22/08/2023 18:32

I guess it’s a lot easier to believe that secret pedophile cabals are taking over somewhere when it’s not your actual workplace being talked about, complete with boring meetings, annoying email chains and mundane policies about how to improve student outcomes. Maybe this is how it felt to work at that pizza place in Washington!

I would have thought that such extraordinary claims would need extraordinary evidence, but instead it seems like anything I say is somehow taken as proof that I have a secret grooming agenda or something. 🤷‍♀️

If anyone is interested in looking at the actual assessment then feel free to DM me.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 22/08/2023 11:45

GeraldTheGoodMouse · 22/08/2023 11:04

It's not "puffed up" marks, they mark to a different scale and always have. An OU 85% is equivalent to 70% elsewhere, as has already been explained.

It’s a puffed up scale! 😂

dcbc1234 · 22/08/2023 11:40

mrshoho · 20/08/2023 08:29

Donated. I was shocked the first time reading around this and I'm still shocked rereading. It feels clear to me that this is a sinister deliberate ploy to change society's view of paedophilia. It is unbelievable how the majority will sleepwalk along with it and accept this 'new' Liberal way. Very brave of Almut to say no and to question. Our laws need to be clear to safeguard children.

This. I have to take my hats off to them. It is so clever to push their evil agenda in plain sight like this. It has worked as people are cowards.

MalcolmTuckersBollockingface · 22/08/2023 11:22

anyolddinosaur · 22/08/2023 11:07

You are either deliberately ignoring or just dont understand the difference between not getting marks for something and being penalised for it. If grooming IS mentioned in the module, even if not in this context, then it's not using material from outside the module. If grooming is not mentioned in this course maybe there is an (unsound) reason for that.

Exactly. Students should be challenging assumptions and thinking around the question when an assignment or an exam question involves a potential scenario or a case study. This is not the same as randomly bringing in secondary sources and external materials.

anyolddinosaur · 22/08/2023 11:07

You are either deliberately ignoring or just dont understand the difference between not getting marks for something and being penalised for it. If grooming IS mentioned in the module, even if not in this context, then it's not using material from outside the module. If grooming is not mentioned in this course maybe there is an (unsound) reason for that.

GeraldTheGoodMouse · 22/08/2023 11:04

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 22/08/2023 09:46

Again why does the EDI department get to to decide? Questioning this is entirely reasonable!

Between this and the puffed up marks compared to other universities, I am starting to suspect that the OU is going to absolutely beclown itself in the various upcoming tribunals (is it 3 for the OU? I’m losing count!)

It's not "puffed up" marks, they mark to a different scale and always have. An OU 85% is equivalent to 70% elsewhere, as has already been explained.

ColinTheGenderMinotaur · 22/08/2023 09:46

Again why does the EDI department get to to decide? Questioning this is entirely reasonable!

Between this and the puffed up marks compared to other universities, I am starting to suspect that the OU is going to absolutely beclown itself in the various upcoming tribunals (is it 3 for the OU? I’m losing count!)

ConnieSaks · 22/08/2023 09:43

*2001 not 2010!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2023 09:40

And by the way in certain circumstances it is illegal for an adult to have sexual relations with a child under 18

This. Where there is any power dynamic involved, certain situations would indeed be best described as "grooming". My bold:

If your child has reached 16 or 17 (and legally able to consent to sex) this does not mean that they are no longer at risk of sexual exploitation.

Consent is defined in the Sexual Offences Act 2003, s.74 as an agreement by choice where the person concerned has the freedom and capacity to make that choice. In almost all cases involving grooming the child’s capacity is undermined by virtue of imbalance of power between the child and the perpetrator, the control exercised and the manipulation or use of force. This age group is covered by statutory duties under the Children Acts 1989 and 2004, and your child can still be subject to significant harm as a result of sexual exploitation.

The College of Policing Authorised Professional Practice Guidance on CSE is an important document for parents because it makes it clear that even if the child has reached the legal age of consent (16), the police have a duty to protect them from child sexual exploitation.

Your child’s needs should not be ignored or de-prioritised by services and agencies because your child is over the age of 16, or is no longer in mainstream education or training.

https://paceuk.info/infoadvice/if-your-child-is-over-16-years-of-age/

ConnieSaks · 22/08/2023 09:31

Again why does the EDI department get to to decide? Questioning this is entirely reasonable!

And by the way in certain circumstances it is illegal for an adult to have sexual relations with a child under 18 and has been since 2010. In English law a 17 year old is a child. Why are you continuing to defend what to me appears to be the indefensible? Why can’t questions be raised? Is it not possible to query anything? @Astoufa how is this bullying by anyone other than the OU?

As @CriticalCondition points out; just as well real lawyers and judges will get to decide this case - not a bunch of hard of thinking administrators! Now that will be interesting!

Astoufo · 22/08/2023 08:19

This is the marking guidance for students (first image) - they are told they will not get marked for anything outside the module material. This is standard for entry level modules at the OU- students only use the module material, no secondary reading until later on.

The only mention of grooming in the module is in reference to county lines (second image).

Therefore students would not get marks for talking about sexual grooming. Because it’s not in the course.

Almut Gadow v Open University (again)
Almut Gadow v Open University (again)
anyolddinosaur · 22/08/2023 07:23

You wouldnt normally deduct marks for including extra information, although if that meant they didnt answer the question you might do so. Able students would be perfectly capable of answering the question while still considering if there was another crime. They should be rewarded, not penalised, for considering anything potentially relevant.