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£1 million prize offered for anyone who can provide a clear example of a transphobic J.K. Rowling quote

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miri1985 · 14/08/2023 02:07

As the title says, a million pounds is being offered by Distance Magazine https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/we-will-award-steve-wardlaw-1-million?r=uglk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

"To win the Steve Wardlaw Prize™, an entrant must demonstrate that the cited statement by J.K. Rowling does not involve a rights conflict. That is, the cited statement must materially detract from the human rights of ‘transgender people’ without simultaneously arguing for the rights of another group, such as women, children, or people with faith traditions."

They've named the prize after Steve Wardlaw who I've never heard of but his pinned tweet is an apology to Alison Bailey

We Will Award Steve Wardlaw £1 Million For The Elusive 'Anti-Trans' J.K. Rowling Quote

He has assured us that it exists

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/we-will-award-steve-wardlaw-1-million?r=uglk

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BettyFilous · 16/08/2023 19:23

Whatsnewpussyhat · 16/08/2023 14:51

Pink news, I'm sure at one point they published something ridiculous like 30 articles in one week about JKR being an evil transphobe bigot right wing blah blah.

A targeted campaign of hate and bullying some might say....

That’s what I was going to post. She’s laughing at the hypocrisy of a man who works for a publication that hounded her incessantly. It was schadenfreude, nothing to do with his sexuality. Honestly, you really have to look at things askance to get to the conclusion you drew.

lechiffre55 · 16/08/2023 16:40

To laugh at a gay man because he says something silly is not homophobic.
It is the silly that causes the laugh.
To laugh at a gay man because he's gay could be considered homophobic.

When someone behaves hypocritically, laughing at the hypocrisy is not a comment on their sexuality, but on the hypocrisy.

Being gay or any other protected characteristic does not make you immune from criticism or ridicule if you do or say silly things.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 16/08/2023 14:51

Pink news, I'm sure at one point they published something ridiculous like 30 articles in one week about JKR being an evil transphobe bigot right wing blah blah.

A targeted campaign of hate and bullying some might say....

AutumnCrow · 16/08/2023 14:26

Chersfrozenface · 16/08/2023 14:18

We also have the matter of definitions.

Given that in the PN editor's dictionary "hate" and "abuse" often mean "people disagreeing with me" and "deluge" and "pile on" mean "lots of people disagreeing with me". The factual accuracy of the complaint is open to question in the first place.

I think the House of Commons might have to reform its procedures.

Original: The Speaker says "The Question is that...", states the question and next says "As many as there are of the opinion say Aye". Then, following shouts of "Aye", the Speaker says "Of the contrary, No" and similar shouts of "No" may follow.

New Pink News Version: "As many as there are of the opinion say Aye" ... followed by the Speaker saying "And all the Haters?" and pandemonium and arrivals by the Polis may ensue.

Chersfrozenface · 16/08/2023 14:18

We also have the matter of definitions.

Given that in the PN editor's dictionary "hate" and "abuse" often mean "people disagreeing with me" and "deluge" and "pile on" mean "lots of people disagreeing with me". The factual accuracy of the complaint is open to question in the first place.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 13:53

Not sure why you’re putting that on MN, @donnawinters - there’s no £million prize here for mixing up transphobia with homophobia and failing to understand the meaning of either. Tell it to the prize-givers. Let us know if you win!

Grin do come back and buy us all a drink @donnawinters

DevilinaCardigan · 16/08/2023 13:51

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:36

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I’m on my phone so the image is really small and I thought it said Michael Biggs not Michael Baggs and I was very confused for a moment.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 13:50

which JK Rowling has condoned many times

She hasn't "condoned" them, because they haven't done anything wrong by setting up a charity for lesbian, gay and bisexual people. Homophobia.

MavisMcMinty · 16/08/2023 13:50

Not sure why you’re putting that on MN, @donnawinters - there’s no £million prize here for mixing up transphobia with homophobia and failing to understand the meaning of either. Tell it to the prize-givers. Let us know if you win!

popebishop · 16/08/2023 13:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 13:47

She wasn't even replying to him directly, she was replying to Simon Edge, a gay man who thought the "pile on" comment was a bit rich given the well known behaviour of Pink News. As did many other people.

That's obvious, so you have to pretend REALLY HARD that you don't realise that when you're standing up for your right side of history (that says it's hateful to support same-sex attraction).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 13:47

She wasn't even replying to him directly, she was replying to Simon Edge, a gay man who thought the "pile on" comment was a bit rich given the well known behaviour of Pink News. As did many other people.

AutumnCrow · 16/08/2023 13:46

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:42

A homosexual man who complained about a homophobic hate and abuse pile-on from members of the hate group LGB-Alliance(which JK Rowling has condoned many times), yes.

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You are being defamatory about a charity for LGB people.

And you really don't understand 'context', or how people reply on Twitter.

teawamutu · 16/08/2023 13:46

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:42

A homosexual man who complained about a homophobic hate and abuse pile-on from members of the hate group LGB-Alliance(which JK Rowling has condoned many times), yes.

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If that's genuinely the best you can do, then you're either (a) insulting us by assuming we're that hard of thinking or (b) somewhat hard of thinking yourself.

popebishop · 16/08/2023 13:45

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:42

A homosexual man who complained about a homophobic hate and abuse pile-on from members of the hate group LGB-Alliance(which JK Rowling has condoned many times), yes.

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LGBA stand for same-sex attraction.
You are saying this is wrong - hateful in fact - and in the same breath accusing others of homophobia.

Do you perhaps see why someone might even find that funny? It's because it's a bit of a silly thing to say, and silly things can be funny, when they're not oppressing a large number of people.

We've seen this before, I bet anything you can't post honestly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 13:45

Is that the best you've got?

It clearly is Grin

popebishop · 16/08/2023 13:43

And she's laughing because... that guy is trans? Or because it's ironic that an instigator of hate, whatever their characteristics, complains about what people say about him on Twitter?

Bear in mind this is a person whose publication promotes the notion that sex is not real and sexual attraction is based in gender instead. That's homophobic itself and JK is clearly in opposition to it.

Is that the best you've got? It's a bit rubbish.

DeanElderberry · 16/08/2023 13:42

'hate group'

try harder

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:42

Britinme · 16/08/2023 13:39

That's a response to the editor of Pink News complaining about Twitter pile-ons, not guffawing at LGBT people. Try again.

A homosexual man who complained about a homophobic hate and abuse pile-on from members of the hate group LGB-Alliance(which JK Rowling has condoned many times), yes.

Britinme · 16/08/2023 13:39

That's a response to the editor of Pink News complaining about Twitter pile-ons, not guffawing at LGBT people. Try again.

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:36

Britinme · 16/08/2023 13:33

Citation needed

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£1 million prize offered for anyone who can provide a clear example of a transphobic J.K. Rowling quote
Britinme · 16/08/2023 13:33

Citation needed

donnawinters · 16/08/2023 13:33

I can provide an example of a JK Rowling homophobic tweet.

A gay man said he had received homophobic online abuse and she replied something along the lines of "haha I guffawed so hard I pulled something".

Britinme · 16/08/2023 13:29

@LoobiJee - thanks!

literalviolence · 16/08/2023 08:14

popebishop · 14/08/2023 10:33

I'll do my own - £3.50 of Tesco clubcard vouchers to anyone who can define 'woman', not including all of us who know it's 'adult female', of course....

It's anyone who says they're a woman or who is told they're a woman by a TW who needs women to stop saying 'if you're a woman, I can't be they're in order to properly do they're womanly duty to serve men. Do I win? I'm wondering what to get for my £3.50!!!

LoobiJee · 16/08/2023 06:29

Britinme · 14/08/2023 15:46

I couldn't find the Vox article about Dworkin and Ginsberg, but I did find this quote in another article, which resonated with me: Dworkin to Ginsberg - “What you’re saying to me is that you’re an exceptional man, and you’re not,” she said, “you’re just a man, like all of the others, who has no respect for the rights of other people.”

The article about Dworkin and Ginsberg mentioned upthread wasn’t in Vox. It was on the website linked in the OP. If you scroll down to the bottom of the “million pounds” article you can see the links to previous articles including the one about the Dworkin interview.