'Interesting' article in the Guardian sex column

Wtf. I not reading it as it will incense me.

It doesn't say that they have sex in the room with their child. They say it's logistically more complicated, which would imply they have to do it outside of 'the norm' which would be their bedroom.

Based on just this article, there are a lot of over reactions and disgusting accusations on this thread.

It is a first world issue - like clean water, sanitation and access to education. It doesn't mean it's unimportant. And it seems particularly crass to double down after someone has shared their childhood trauma of being exposed to a parent having sex at close range.

Again, why can't you have the discreet sex in the bathroom whilst your kid sleeps in the bedroom? Why when you have the ability to have if in a different room don't you take it? Or you know, Just forgo the sex whilst the child is sharing a room?

Yes it is a first world issue. Sadly one issue for young girls in developing countries is the sharing of beds and bedrooms provides increased opportunity for abuse by family members.

Personally if the situation itself wasn't worrying enough, the way they both go out of their way to talk about it makes me think they're getting a kick out of people reading about it too.

I stand my my comments. This is a first world issue. There is many families that do not have the benefit of additional rooms. In fact there is many a child in the world today who would not have been born.

Parents having discreet sex while a child is fast asleep in the same holiday hotel room is not going to do any harm and happens with many a holidaying family. I agree that if you start drawing vibrators and the like into the equation is another matter.

I'm so sorry that happened to you. that's really awful.

Only if you're down right weird

Oh god that's just reminded me of a child I babysat for once when I was 19. The mum had two kids (about 8 and 6) and was single. She really loved having loud sex and didn't care if who heard. The daughter had huge behavioural problems.

My friends just thought she was a modern woman living her best life.

So sorry for you as a small child 😢

I think whether its crime or not is a bit of a red herring. It certainly can be abusive whether or not that meets the threshold for the specific crime

There are plenty of families we work with whereby the child is exhibiting sexualised behaviour toward themselves or other children/adults, at this point there is often exploration of whether the child has witnessed sexual behaviour at home/been abused. Quite often the child has been exposed to the adults having sex,, not caring if the child is in the room, or seeing sexual behaviour online/on screen/hearing language about it. Its normal for people to wake up during sleep, or at least absorb what is going on around them while asleep so the child is being exposed.

So whether or not a prosecution comes from that (extremely rare), it is abusive.

This is awful

This is sick.
You can't resist for the sake of not harming your child?! Ffs

JFC what is this!
How the hell do they publish something like that. I'm just reading the comments here, can't bring myself to look. I'll be traumatised. The bit about breastfeeding omg!

I'm so sorry

Why is the poor 8 year old kid on a mattress on the floor, can't he at least have a bed?

They don't explicitly say they are in the same room as child

Yes, they do.

Right?

My mum laughed when she was wasted once and I asked her to please just stop with my step dad because we (my little brother and I) were trying to sleep and we couldn't sleep through their sex noises. They carried on with it all in the dark (we were in a hotel), so got my brother and all our duvets etc and moved us into the bathroom. I made him a little bed in the bathtub and I slept on the floor.

Or just wait until you're back? Honestly people going on as though you might die if you don't have sex this instant sound like MRAs. It's not "bucking the trend". It's child abuse. Just don't do it and the sky won't fall in, I promise.

And you can't go in the bathroom for five minutes and do it in there?

Why doesn't their eight year old son have his own bedroom? They are not living in a medieval hall house with a sleeping platform and the cows in the byre below. Honestly.

Often I will bite Sam a little, and scratch his skin, and that builds a kind of crackling electricity between us.
🤔

I don’t know why the Guardian is publishing this soft porn shite / repulsive story here for readers who are titillated by the notion that a child is present in the room while adults have sex.

Has Alastair Campbell fallen on hard times and reverted to his former job? There’s no way these columns are written by “normal” readers. The column a few weeks ago about the sex life of a pair of 75-year-olds (at it every single morning for a couple of hours, apparently, and in all sorts of positions) was actually quite entertaining. But this column here is really very disturbing.

May happen? What by accident?

Using a vibrator on your wife and hoping it may help your child stay sleeping, or get to sleep, doesn't indicate they're convinced he IS fast asleep.