British Army invites male to talk about his 'lived experience' as a woman

Hannah is NOT a secret TERF. If Hannah thinks something will get her promoted or an OBE, that’s what Hannah will do.

There is not much space in the MOD for TERFs. All the space for the transwomen, a little bit for the transmen. Of course, just being in the army makes servicewoman non binary as the clothes are men’s.

e.g. shirt, combat, men’s.

Of course, the big project to make the clothing gender neutral resulted in this label becoming “shirt, combat”. The cut and fit did not change so much.

I'm sure I read that push come to shove, you'll go from pretending in your chosen gender when no war is on, to being obligated to fight as your natal sex.

You are correct @RealityFan

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/transgender-policy-us-military-draft-b2199772.html

Surely it’s men who need to sit and listen to someone talk about being a transwoman in the army, not women.

If they’d done a talk on their experience of being trans in the army then that’s something I’d rather miss to be honest, but what does this person know about having periods, pregnancy, sexism, sexual harassment and abuse… anywhere exactly? I’d love to have heard what their ‘experiences ’ are exactly?

I was surprised by her twitter bio, “mummy, wife, army officer” and briefly wondered whether her spouse’s bio reads “daddy, husband, army officer”. I’d guess not.

I was hoping that Hannah was a secret terf. But switching off replies makes me think not.

Sums it up.

I'm sure I read that push come to shove, you'll go from pretending in your chosen gender when no war is on, to being obligated to fight as your natal sex.

Maybe only applies to conscription or invasion.

Whereas I did a really loud laugh at work when I read Tinsel’s comment about it!

That really is one of those “picture speaks a thousand words” photos.

That's not correct about the US Military at least.

https://www.army.mil/article/247785/change_to_policy_allows_transgender_soldiers_to_serve_openly

This will be playing on a loop in barracks all over China and Russia 🙄

Well, crikey. A picture tells us so much.

How do we all feel about manspreading these days, ladies?

If the Russkis can over the channel tomorrow they would be in Whitehall by lunchtime. Incorrect use of pronouns and various micro aggressions would lead to hissy fits, falling out and not fighting the invader.

Quite striking when you compare their pose to the other panel members sitting with crossed legs. Must have been bloody frustrating for those women to sit quietly and pretend to listen.

We hear constantly that transwomen (occasionally extended to all trans people) as a group have a terribly difficult time, face all kinds of legal and social and logistical obstacles, and are the most marginalized and exploited group. Women as a group are allegedly relatively privileged and should be kind, budge up, move over, and cede all spaces and accommodations in consideration of the far more dire situation of transwomen. SO - why on EARTH would someone who's had significant actual experience of being a transwoman in the Forces - and is now in a position to advocate and possibly drive policy change - talk about the experience of being there as a woman, even if they could? Why not highlight the unique challenges to transwomen? I'd be happy to listen to that, and would probably learn something.

I know!!!! I'm soooo fucking angry!!

Lumpy jumper was probably one of the nicer descriptions. And this prat is telling their womanly experiences. Ahhhhhh

I genuinely want to scream at that twitter post.

Ah yes, lived experiences like more or less being forced to take the combined pill and continuously so that you're not menstruating when on exercise or the pretty much constant sexual harassment from senior staff in training barracks (if you didn't agree to their propositions your life was made hell), or pretty much having to leave the military because you've become a parent and the expectation on mother's is insane vs expectation on father's, or the ill fitting kit that's 'unisex'.

Yes I'm sure that W/O Penny has true lived experience as a woman in the military.

He has no lived experience as a woman, so I've solved that. I really am going to say something one day.

It’s not about living how they feel comfortable it’s about trying to take every space and make sure you access wherever you want regardless of anyone else.

Yes, exactly. It's a dominance display.

The fact this person is apparently seeking out these type of spaces/events speaks volumes. A need to be seen and validated as a “woman”, a need to shove “yes I am a woman” at people.

It’s not about living how they feel comfortable it’s about trying to take every space and make sure you access wherever you want regardless of anyone else.

Didn't they do the same last year? I seem to remember a Women in the Army thing which featured only a transwoman - it was posted about on here.

Fucking engaging. I bet that person spent their early years in the Army being "one of the lads" and joining in with the bullying and harassment of female colleagues.

But now they "are" one. So come on, darling, how did you manage your periods on a march? How much time off did you have to give birth and did it affect your fitness or career? Did sexual harassment or sexist bullying hold you back?

Also they need to "lady" better - don't sit like that wearing a skirt.

I'm sorry to say I wondered if the person at the end on the left had eaten another lass!!!

Sorry, I'm a ⛱️, I know 😞

This is so offensive and massively insulting to all of us who actually served and got dicked about because we were female. Lived experience my arse 🤬