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You are safe with me

186 replies

Justme56 · 09/08/2023 18:49

I saw this on Twitter as David Tennent was wearing one. I’m sure his intention is good but it gave me weird vibes. Can he guarantee that everyone who is wearing one is ‘safe’ to be around? Am I overthinking this?

You are safe with me
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AmaListening · 09/08/2023 20:02

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/08/2023 19:54

frankly just because someone 'accepts' that your child is gay or trans, it's no guarantee whatsoever that your child is safe with that person. what a dangerously foolish thing to think

The badge isn't a substitute for a DBS check. That's not the point of it. We're not in the realm of safeguarding here; we're not talking about whether your child can go home with someone because they're wearing a badge.

It's simply saying that the badge-wearer identifies as an ally to those whose sexual orientation or gender identity isn't accepted or tolerated by all.

This is hugely important because the world can feel a very unsafe place for those who aren't straight or cis.

EddieMunsen · 09/08/2023 20:02

"Let me be your new family as your real one is full of bigots".

EmpressaurusOfCats · 09/08/2023 19:54

As a lesbian I wouldn’t feel at all safe around someone with one of those badges, because it suggests they think I’m a bigot for being exclusively attracted to my own sex. And I wouldn’t want them around young lesbians either.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/08/2023 19:54

frankly just because someone 'accepts' that your child is gay or trans, it's no guarantee whatsoever that your child is safe with that person. what a dangerously foolish thing to think

Clymene · 09/08/2023 19:52

AmaListening · 09/08/2023 19:31

I don't think David is guaranteeing anything about others who wear a similar badge.

By wearing it, he's simply saying: I am a safe place if you're LGBTQ+ because I accept you.

Which is a much needed message for many people, and if my child identified as gay, bi, trans, non-binary etc, I'd feel greatly supported by other adults around them wearing such badges.

Luckily you do t have any children because that is hopelessly, dangerously naive

popebishop · 09/08/2023 19:51

I think it's a great demonstration of self id. Get a badge and everyone has to believe what you say about yourself, otherwise they are anti-inclusion.

Mochudubh · 09/08/2023 19:44

duc748 · 09/08/2023 19:41

A Northern Soul classic, sadly re-purposed by Donald Trump as racist anti-immigrant.

Thankfully I've never heard it used that way.

It popped into my head with PPs mention of Kaa and I realised it's apt because it's ultimately where Be Kind leads us.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/08/2023 19:43

<shudder>

duc748 · 09/08/2023 19:41

A Northern Soul classic, sadly re-purposed by Donald Trump as racist anti-immigrant.

Mochudubh · 09/08/2023 19:36

@PomegranateOfPersephone
The Snake
by Al Wilson

Quite, it reminds me of this

  • On her way to work one morning Down the path alongside the lake
  • A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake
  • His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
  • "Oh well," she cried, "I'll take you in and I'll take care of you"
  • "Take me in, oh, tender woman
  • Take me in, for heaven's sake
  • Take me in, tender woman," sighed the snake
  • Now she wrapped him up all cozy in a coverture of silk
  • And laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk
  • Now she hurried home from work that night, as soon she arrived
  • Now she found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived
  • Now she clutched him to her bosom, "You're so beautiful," she cried
  • "But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died"
  • Now she stroked his pretty skin again and then kissed and held him tight
  • But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite (ooh)
  • "I saved you," cried that woman "And you've bitten me, even why?
  • And you know your bite is poisonous and now I'm gonna die"
  • "Oh, shut up, silly woman," said that reptile with a grin
  • You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in.
  • Writer/s: Oscar Brown Jr.
  • Lyrics licensed and provided by LyricFind
Spanky123 · 09/08/2023 19:35

The wokists dream....

duc748 · 09/08/2023 19:34

rabbitwoman · 09/08/2023 19:25

Who gives these away, and what criteria do you need to meet to get one? Is there an exam, a check?

Otherwise, anyone could get one, much like a Jim'll Fix It badge.....

Arf! 😀
Get one free with every pair of pink leggings!

EddieMunsen · 09/08/2023 19:33

Safeguarding nightmare.

AmaListening · 09/08/2023 19:31

I don't think David is guaranteeing anything about others who wear a similar badge.

By wearing it, he's simply saying: I am a safe place if you're LGBTQ+ because I accept you.

Which is a much needed message for many people, and if my child identified as gay, bi, trans, non-binary etc, I'd feel greatly supported by other adults around them wearing such badges.

Bellablahhole · 09/08/2023 19:31

Creepy.
Makes me think of the snake 🐍 in Disney Jungle Book “Trust in meeeeee 🎶”

This 👆is what first hit me too. I'd tell my gc's to run a mile if they saw someone wearing that badge 🤨

LakeTiticaca · 09/08/2023 19:29

Safe with me as long as you agree with my opinions?
Ugh creepy and weird I would be running very fast in the opposite direction

rabbitwoman · 09/08/2023 19:25

Who gives these away, and what criteria do you need to meet to get one? Is there an exam, a check?

Otherwise, anyone could get one, much like a Jim'll Fix It badge.....

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 09/08/2023 19:22

Was the shop out of Child Catcher badges, David?

I very much doubt DT himself is a threat to any child. But he is working quite hard to enable those who are.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 09/08/2023 19:19

PermanentTemporary · 09/08/2023 19:18

I am certain that anyone would be safe around David Tennant.

But it doesn't feel very thought through. Reminds me of You Can Pee Next To Me t-shirts. What, literally anyone? Anywhere?

Sorry, crosspost! I do think there’s something in my idea though.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 09/08/2023 19:19

It’s a groomer’s dream.

What would be of actual practical use IMO would be a campaign to make it safe for everyone to use the correct toilets for their sex without fear of being beaten up or whatever. Men like David Tennant & Owen Jones using the ‘You can pee with me’ hashtag & offering their services as company / support if needed.

FrancescaContini · 09/08/2023 19:18

It reminds me of how I feel if a man says he’s honest. I then assume that he isn’t, and am very wary of him.

PermanentTemporary · 09/08/2023 19:18

I am certain that anyone would be safe around David Tennant.

But it doesn't feel very thought through. Reminds me of You Can Pee Next To Me t-shirts. What, literally anyone? Anywhere?

Helleofabore · 09/08/2023 19:15

That is a very irresponsible badge.

Boiledbeetle · 09/08/2023 19:14

what a very strange message to stick on a badge. I get what it's trying to say but it's so open to abuse by bad faith actors.

Good people don't tell you they are good people.

Only bad people tell you they are good people.

That badge gives off bad person vibes.