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RealityFan · 09/08/2023 14:10

I agree with your reservations, one and all. The jury remains out. We'll know all about it when Starmer and his cronies assume power in just over a year's time.

My Q to all of you...are you prepared to follow the tactics of JSO, the statue dismantlers, Greenpeace?

Are you prepared to break the law in a Suffragettes 2.0 campaign, to bring the M25 to a standstill during the Monday rush hour?

Will you interrupt sports events and vandalise paintings in museums?

Will you drape a giant Woman = Adult Human Female canopy over Starmer's house?

Most critically, will you take this pure class war, ie women's sex based rights versus men's activist rights to co-opt women, right to the lions den...Downing Street, GMB and Unite union AGMs, the DoE, DoH, Stonewall HQ etc?

Because the policies that will control your future will be made in those places from late 2024 onwards.

Mummy08m · 09/08/2023 14:03

I work in a secondary school in England.

It's barely even begun. It's going to get so so so much worse before it gets better.

These journalists are stuck in a political world but the real life world is a long phase lag behind.

duc748 · 09/08/2023 14:03

Can't read the article, but surely without a firm commitment to scrap, or radically amend, the GRA, and a very firm No to Self-ID, we aren't much further forward? Isn't Helen Lewis in the US now?

SunnyEgg · 09/08/2023 14:00

This is just a re-spun version of stop talking about it that crops up every few weeks

Usually from Labour

Fenlandia · 09/08/2023 13:59

If this were true, and I don't trust Labour one bit anyway, how come this board is still daily full of new examples of the harms of gender ideology? The queer nit combs were a hoot, but we also have serious stuff from healthcare, schools, academia, the arts and sport to name a few.

WallaceinAnderland · 09/08/2023 13:49

It doesn't feel over. What has materially changed?

StopStartStop · 09/08/2023 13:43

No. It's just a way to quieten us down again. The gender nonsense is ingrained and will take years of vigilance and action to weed out. Labour won't help us.

Toseland · 09/08/2023 13:41

Rubbish - it seems to me that Labour will bring in self-ID but it will be called something else and cost a fiver from a dodgy GP.
We are not much further forward - it's definately not over.

Baldieheid · 09/08/2023 12:51

I disagree, sadly. Pandora's box has been opened and I suspect I'll be fighting this crap on one front or another for the rest of my life. It's misogyny on steroids and I can't see it going anywhere now the ones right at the far back of the trail can actually taste the children.....

SunnyEgg · 09/08/2023 12:48

PriOn1 · 09/08/2023 12:46

I still don’t think it’s over, but politically, the Labour party backing away from self-ID is a huge shift.

Self-ID is the flagship demand, so any move away from that is enormous.

Why huge if it’s just £5 and a Dr appointment to gain access to single sex spaces as a legal female?

PriOn1 · 09/08/2023 12:46

I still don’t think it’s over, but politically, the Labour party backing away from self-ID is a huge shift.

Self-ID is the flagship demand, so any move away from that is enormous.

RealityFan · 09/08/2023 12:44

Helen has the best take on Starmer, and what makes him tick, inspiring my Starmer The Tortoise thread here. His slicing the onion ever more finely to make Labour electable in a country that's mainly small c conservative, including his recent change of heart on Self ID, fits into this Gender Wars Are Over narrative from Helen. Her substack is really worth reading.

SunnyEgg · 09/08/2023 12:43

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/08/2023 12:33

Rubbish

while there’s such a thing as legal sex which can differ from, yanno, actual sex, it’s not over

This

inverness123 · 09/08/2023 12:38

Also, I think she means it is over in England (and I don’t agree with that either). It’s sadly not over at all in Scotland!

But I do agree this shows great progress and is a testament to the amazing women who have fought so hard against it.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/08/2023 12:33

Rubbish

while there’s such a thing as legal sex which can differ from, yanno, actual sex, it’s not over

EmpressaurusOfCats · 09/08/2023 12:27

I’d love to think so but Labour haven’t convinced me yet.