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Woman denied cancer treatment for "transphobic" views and discharged from future care

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HootyMcBooby76 · 08/08/2023 10:10

Have we discussed this?
Apologies if so.
Woman Accuses Hospital of Denying Cancer Treatment Over Transphobic Comment (newsweek.com)

So the mantra is LITERALLY accept this ideology or be prepared to die.
And THEY have the gall to call us (insert word for a member of the far-right National Socialist German Workers' Party).

This is why healthcare and this ideology should be kept very far apart. Healthcare is no longer neutral and unbiased.
Believe or die.

Woman Accuses Hospital of Denying Cancer Treatment

Woman accuses hospital of denying cancer treatment over transphobic comment

The woman compared the hospital's display of a transgender banner to a Nazi flag.

https://www.newsweek.com/woman-accuses-hospital-denying-cancer-treatment-over-transphobic-comment-1817671

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Ingenieur · 08/08/2023 14:42

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ThereIbledit · 08/08/2023 14:38

This is as much about access to private healthcare as it is about the right to express unpopular views. And it's as much about where does the balance lie between rights with regard to freedom of speech for the customer and freedom from harrassment for the employees

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 14:35

Ingenieur · 08/08/2023 14:09

@RattleRattle

I disagree, it's a good comparison because the ideology necessitates the destruction of women as a sex class

I agree with rattlerattle that the comparison of trans flag to confederate flag is off the mark.

I personally think it is toxic white feminism to blithely conflate slavery with trans ideology.

Ingenieur · 08/08/2023 14:09

@RattleRattle

I disagree, it's a good comparison because the ideology necessitates the destruction of women as a sex class

Riapia · 08/08/2023 14:07

She’s only a woman.
They would never have dared to do that to a TW.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 13:58

Truly outrageous and shameful that an NHS Trust has compared a rape survivor wanting same-sex care to a racist wanting same-race care.

And this government does nothing about it.

RoseslnTheHospital · 08/08/2023 13:07

Rather than the confederate flag, perhaps a better comparison would be a party political flag - so in the US it could be a Republican or Democrat flag. Or a "pro-life" abortion pressure group's flag. Etc.

RattleRattle · 08/08/2023 12:48

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Ingenieur · 08/08/2023 12:36

If the hanging of a trans flag should not cause offence of a patient, would you feel the same of a practice hanging a Confederate flag causing offence to a black patient?

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BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 11:25

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:56

The reduxx article makes it clear that the Richmond clinic is her GP.

So she was discharged from her GPs surgery, and not in fact "denied cancer treatment" as per the OPs title.

She was discharged from all Oregon Health and Science University facilities, not just the GP surgery.

The OHSU group includes breast cancer screening and treatment facilities.

Breast Cancer Screening in Portland, Beaverton & Scappoose | OHSU

Learn about breast cancer screening at the OHSU Knight Cancer Institute in Portland, Oregon

https://www.ohsu.edu/knight-cancer-institute/breast-cancer-screening

RoseslnTheHospital · 08/08/2023 11:13

It's really really relevant that this is the US which has a completely different healthcare system. It's not the NHS. Both the healthcare provider and the woman in question have behaved badly, which has ended up with the woman being barred from using that provider. It would have been more sensible for her to choose a different provider before getting barred.

I don't think healthcare providers in general should be promoting specific ideologies, whatever they are. Massive flags aren't appropriate in that sort of setting in general even if they are ones that I would wholeheartedly support!

forgotmyusername1 · 08/08/2023 11:08

you can be refused treatment in the uk for being abusive as well

Being removed from the register by a GPA GP might remove you from the patient register, for example because you move out of the practice area or are abusive to people at the practice. In most cases, the GP must have given you a warning and their reason for removing you from the register.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 11:00

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:43

This is another reason to fight for our NHS. This is what privatisation leads to- healthcare gets downgraded from a human right to a luxury item.

Agreed - when I was unwell in the US with bad tonsillitis the care I received was absolutely excellent but the cost was eye-watering for the appointment and even more so for the antibiotics. I was glad of my health insurance. Not a system I would like to see replicated in the UK.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:56

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:49

Presumably the clinic was her gateway to treatment? If it is part of a group that includes a cancer care institute, then it's feasible that blood tests were handled at the clinic.

The reduxx article makes it clear that the Richmond clinic is her GP.

So she was discharged from her GPs surgery, and not in fact "denied cancer treatment" as per the OPs title.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:56

It’s a different system in the US you can be dropped for tons of reasons.

My sister lives in Oregon (as does Barbera) and she was discharged from her obstetrician’s practice when 7 months pregnant because she decided she wanted a homebirth and they don’t support homebirth due to the limits of their medical malpractice insurance and the fact the hospital they have admitting privileges with prohibits their doctors from support job homebirth and would drop them. All my sister did was mention that she’d like a homebirth at a prenatal appointment (being British and used to it being an option), and that was enough for them to send her a letter discharging her. She literally had to find another provider for prenatal care and childbirth at 7 months pregnant.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:49

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:43

Then why does the article keep referencing the Richmond clinic and her issues with the flag etc in that clinic? It does not offer cancer treatment.

Presumably the clinic was her gateway to treatment? If it is part of a group that includes a cancer care institute, then it's feasible that blood tests were handled at the clinic.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/08/2023 10:44

“The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics”

Not surprised, she sounds like very hard work.

Flickersy · 08/08/2023 10:43

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:39

The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics.

Then why does the article keep referencing the Richmond clinic and her issues with the flag etc in that clinic? It does not offer cancer treatment.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:43

This is another reason to fight for our NHS. This is what privatisation leads to- healthcare gets downgraded from a human right to a luxury item.

MillicentBystandr · 08/08/2023 10:41

It’s a private Family medicine clinic so of course they have the right to discharge any patient that acts like Barbera did.

She filed a complaint saying she refused to attend appointments until the transgender banner was taken down saying I do not feel comfortable coming into Richmond with that enormous transgenderism banner hanging like a Nazi flag behind the reception desk and in her letter, Barbera requested a telephone appointment to discuss how I may access your medical care without walking under a banner that seeks to negate all I am

When she called demanding a telephone appointment with the doctor about blood test results, the receptionist said she had to book an in person appointment which she flat out refused to do so. Then she said did I hurt the trans person's feelings? which led to the receptionist ending the call.

BaronMunchausen · 08/08/2023 10:39

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/08/2023 10:17

So she was denied cancer treatment at a place that doesn’t offer oncology services

right

The place in question is a primary care centre that is part of the Oregon Health and Science University, which includes cancer treatment. She has been excluded from all OHSU Family Medicine clinics.

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