Woman denied cancer treatment for "transphobic" views and discharged from future care

I think it depends on the treatment. This clinic doesn't offer oncology so this wasn't treatment for cancer.

I'd like to think if you were in an NHS ward and didn't need life preserving treatment and you were consistently racist/abusive then you would be discharged. NHS staff shouldn't need to risk their own wellbeing for someone who could behave better but chooses not to.

This isn't about a flag or her cancer treatment. She was being vile about an individual and they have reacted by no longer offering her a private service from their business. Even by her own account she sounds deeply unpleasant.

"However, the situation intensified this year after Barbera tried to leave a message for her doctor about blood test results. The receptionist urged her to make an appointment instead. Not wanting to add another medical appointment to her calendar, Barbera refused. The receptionist allegedly got frustrated and "hung up on" Barbera, according to Barbera's comments in the Reduxx report. I asked, guessing 'did I hurt the trans person's feelings?' And the receptionist took offense to the question, asking 'what did you say' slowly and with great emphasis," Barbera told Reduxx, adding that she ended the call after the comment.

I think it's a balancing act of rights.

Ultimately if we treat our nhs staff like dirt and fail to protect them then they'll leave which means longer waiting lists and already stretched staff having to pick up more, leading to more leaving. This is also a death sentence for many people.

I don't agree with the nhs withdrawing treatment from people but I don't blame staff who withdraw themselves from the nhs which has the same effect ultimately.

Also there is a line. Do you really think nhs staff should have to treat soneone who, for example, physically attacks them?

Yep, I mean look at what has happened to our dentists.

Absolutely true.

I work for NHS myself. Racism isn't fine but I don't think it should be a death sentence which withdrawing treatment would be. We maybe wouldn't make so much small talk or be quite so friendly with unpleasant patients but we still have to treat them. It is entirely different if a patient refuses treatment because they demand a white doctor. They get who is available or don't get seen! But then withdrawing is the patient decision not the staff

I agree, and if the NHS is privatised that is something we would lose.

I have a couple of friends who no longer work for the nhs because they were expected to tolerate racism on an almost daily basis from patients. They are not the only people who have left our already understaffed nhs due to being treated appallingly by patients.
Our system isn't perfect either.

Don't forget that the staff treating people are also human beings.

In the NHS we treat people we disagree with. We treat criminals, we treat rude people. I don't think it's right to stop treatment even if the patient was rude and hard work, but that's private healthcare for you I guess

What?
You think he wouldn't want Trump Flags every where? I think he probably would.

Have affiliation agreements

Google says they are not part of OHSU. Various websites say they Hager affiliation agreements which mean they can transfer patients between them while complying with HIPAA.

@Murica no, I didn’t misread. I think he would take your view on this so thought actually you’d prefer his flag to the Trans one. I’m guessing there should be no gay emblems, or neurodiversity or any of the other groups who struggle against bigoted attitudes?

Yes, all those are part of OHSU. She has been dismissed from that network. And since the Richmond clinic is a Federally Qualified Health Center, it's likely she can't afford to toddle off to just any clinic.

@Murica
MillicentBystandr · Yesterday 18:22
A quick google shows three other hospital networks in Portland/Beaverton Oregon area that also do oncology: Providence, Adventist, and Legacy. They accept most health insurance providers as well.

I think she was being very difficult and looking for confrontation really. I think instances like this suggest the dilemma of US allies on this issue - gender critical culture wars are popular with right wing Trumpists and evangelicals who are not my natural allies.

I'm a Terf but I don't think I really object to rainbow etc flags - if they are signalling they welcome diversity so be it. But I would object to not being able to access women only care and treatment where appropriate.

OHSU is one of four independent private healthcare providers in the area that do cancer treatment. She has three others she can toddle off to.

No, she cannot. She has been dismissed from all OHSU affiliated health services. It says so right in the letter.

And she can still access it at any one of the other three health care systems in town that I listed upthread.

The state of Oregon recently amended its constitution.

“It is the obligation of the state to ensure that every resident of Oregon has access to cost-effective, clinically appropriate and affordable health care as a fundamental right.”

Regardless of whether some find this woman's statements offensive, she has a constitutional right to health care.

Pointing out you don't want to see a flag is fine.

Calling it a Nazi flag is unacceptable. Ranting at your doctor demanding he remove it is unacceptable. Making snide, nasty comments about "did I hurt the trans persons feelings" on the phone is unacceptable.

Some of these may actually be crimes. And the medical practice has decided that it means she is not someone they can deal with. Even the NHS reserves the right to refuse to treat you if you are abusive to staff.

No flags, no religious symbolism in a hc environment. Simple, cheap, inoffensive and environmentally friendly.

Pointing out you don’t want to see a flag is ok.

It’s when Barbera went on to compare the trans flag to a Nazi flag that she crossed the line into anti-Semitism. Why? Because minimising the Holocaust to make it comparable to the fear of about “what might happen” if TW are in single sex spaces is a form of Holocaust denial- the form that says what happened is an exaggeration.

Barbera’s comment should be viewed as highly offensive by anyone reading it and it is deserving of being denied service by a private health clinic in a country where healthcare is not a human right.

I agree. I try to explain it. Many just don’t get it. A few do and that gives me hope 🫤

I don't really want to see any political or religious or ideological flags in hospitals, doctors' surgeries, banks, schools, because they are invariably part of some unregulated EDI exercise that draws people in without their agreement.

Pointing that out isn't a crime deserving of punishment.