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Stickering

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washingsomuchwashing · 08/08/2023 06:09

I sticker regularly to raise awareness and they all get removed. Why is this? Other stickers aren't. Why can't people express their opinion? Took great pleasure in ripping down the Trans rights poster that's just appeared in my neighbourhood. If my stickers are removed, so will their poster.

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TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 16/08/2023 22:13

My first ribboning.

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TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 16/08/2023 12:39

I know they're a hate crime in Scotland, but I'm not currently in Scotland, they don't ruin anything, nor do they take work to clean off soooooo...

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PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 16/08/2023 06:16

RoseslnTheHospital · 15/08/2023 12:45

Plenty of campaign groups fly post or sticker to get their message across. Yes, it is illegal if you don't own the location that you post/sticker, you might get a £75 fixed penalty notice if caught, more likely you will just be told to remove the sticker and warned off. Removing someone else's flyposts or stickers is not going to be illegal.

Would this shoe up on a criminal records check?

I need an enhanced check for work

PorcelinaV · 15/08/2023 14:31

donnawinters · 15/08/2023 12:37

Because it's illegal, vandalism and possibly a hate crime depending on what the stickers say.

If you are tearing down posters which have been put up legally(eg by the council etc) that's also illegal.

You don't have a right to deface or tear down other people's property. It's not yours.

But it being illegal and vandalism, doesn't explain why only some of the stickers are being removed.

I doubt any GC stickers would be a "hate crime". It's probably just something like, "lesbians don't have penises", which should be well within legally protected freedom of expression.

Now of course, certain people may think any disagreement with their ideology is a "hate crime", and that's why perhaps they would want to remove them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2023 12:45

Do you have this opinion also if the poster isn't an official one but put up by local trans activists? Are we ok to take it down then?

RoseslnTheHospital · 15/08/2023 12:45

Plenty of campaign groups fly post or sticker to get their message across. Yes, it is illegal if you don't own the location that you post/sticker, you might get a £75 fixed penalty notice if caught, more likely you will just be told to remove the sticker and warned off. Removing someone else's flyposts or stickers is not going to be illegal.

donnawinters · 15/08/2023 12:37

washingsomuchwashing · 08/08/2023 06:09

I sticker regularly to raise awareness and they all get removed. Why is this? Other stickers aren't. Why can't people express their opinion? Took great pleasure in ripping down the Trans rights poster that's just appeared in my neighbourhood. If my stickers are removed, so will their poster.

Because it's illegal, vandalism and possibly a hate crime depending on what the stickers say.

If you are tearing down posters which have been put up legally(eg by the council etc) that's also illegal.

You don't have a right to deface or tear down other people's property. It's not yours.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 15/08/2023 12:15

Service stations this morning.
I have lovely ribbons with me too.

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Helleofabore · 15/08/2023 10:13

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2023 09:38

I would be tempted to get my pen out and write "man" and "marked his territory".

That is exactly what those stickers are doing.

TheHappyCarrot · 15/08/2023 10:11

They had all those stickers made and all I think is 'shouldn't there be an apostrophe after the second 'e'?'

Hope he didn't drip on the seat.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/08/2023 09:38

I would be tempted to get my pen out and write "man" and "marked his territory".

Helleofabore · 15/08/2023 09:34

Saw this and thought it was relevant

https://twitter.com/thelaurenchen/status/1690813307979259904?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

So, ‘A trans person peed here. You survived’ is now considered a useful counter to female people wanting single sex spaces to remain single sex and not single gender?

These male individuals really don’t care. Those male people with trans identities who do care, and we know that they are plenty who do care, they don’t use female single sex spaces. The ones who do use single sex spaces, they will never understand why they shouldn’t.

https://twitter.com/thelaurenchen/status/1690813307979259904?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

PorcelinaV · 13/08/2023 20:47

Has anyone made their local paper for a "hate crime"??

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 13/08/2023 18:59

You're free to sticker
Others are free to remove them

Think of it as counter stickering

PandaExpress · 13/08/2023 18:57

I love the idea of stickering! I'm going to make some with my daughter. I know that she will enjoy that small act of rebellion. She's 10 and is really conscious of the progressive propaganda being pushed on children. It was actually her take on it all that peaked me. She will love this!

Overthebow · 13/08/2023 12:36

I’ve never heard of a ticketing before, but surely it’s just vandalism? Stocking stickers on supermarket trolleys, bins and other objects that don’t belong to you is vandalism.

washingsomuchwashing · 13/08/2023 12:31

These are the posters I've removed. (I'm also sick to death of being bludgeoned over the head with Pride, let alone Trans Pride. The community I live in couldn't be more diverse. We don't need year-round rainbows and Pride references.)

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BabyStopCryin · 13/08/2023 12:05

I just passed an electronic ad board in Shepherd’s Bush with ‘no pride without trans pride’ (same visuals as the posters near my office). Who is paying for this?

washingsomuchwashing · 13/08/2023 10:35

Well, there's been a development. The poster I removed has been replaced - and the billboard next to it. Doubling down. I removed them. A guy was watching from across the road and gave me a cheers and a thumbs up.

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GailBlancheViola · 12/08/2023 18:43

I find it even more hypocritical that that other worn out old trope of trying to shame women by saying "Who are you to decide which toilets someone uses" was rolled out.

Who are they to decide which toilet they use?

It is such a misogynistic, male power play.

Helleofabore · 12/08/2023 15:22

Maybe @Kit7 would be interested in reading this paper.

jaapl.org/content/33/1/16

'A recurrent pattern of sex offending suggests the ingrained nature of deviant sexual interests. Orchiectomy alone, without attendant psychological change, may be insufficient to mitigate sexual recidivism in a person who is in the community and subject to temptations'

'For those individuals who harbor entrenched pedophilic or sadistic sexual preoccupations, the removal of the testes without accompanying cognitive‐behavioral interventions may leave potent psychological risk factors in place'

'As Hansen and Lykke‐Olesen27 noted, surgical castration is a treatment of symptoms and not a cure. The latter must be emphasized, as orchiectomy in high‐risk offenders may create an artificial sense of safety. This is not to suggest that the existing orchiectomy data are of no value in current sex offender risk assessment. Rather, the risk analysis should reflect a prudent application of the orchiectomy data to the assessment of the individual sex offender.'

And then assure us that the % of males who commit sex crime will be safer just because some of them reduce their testosterone. Because we know it is NAMALT. The issue is that the % seems to be the same whether they are trans or not.

Helleofabore · 11/08/2023 13:18

I find it even more hypocritical that that other worn out old trope of trying to shame women by saying "Who are you to decide which toilets someone uses."

should be

I find it even more hypocritical that that other worn out old trope of trying to shame women by saying "Who are you to decide which toilets someone uses" was rolled out.

When you consider this statement fully and its implications, it is misogynistic. It comes with the implication that women who have needs cannot have any say in who uses spaces that were intended to protect them. That their needs are not the priority, male people's needs are the priority.

As I said up thread.

Once you start to see all the distortions, the dissonance and the tactics, whether intended or not, you cannot unsee them.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 11/08/2023 13:14

Helleofabore · 11/08/2023 10:44

I think Hebden Bridge needs ribbons! Lots of ribbons!!

I think you could be right, I shall see what I can do.

Helleofabore · 11/08/2023 12:44

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 11/08/2023 12:21

Add also - cleaning mooncup Confused

Hang on. Let's remember that women who need additional privacy don't exist apparently. Or maybe they should stay at home. Or something because women and their needs are inconvenient truths for people with lovely trans friends and for people who believe that they, whether male or female, get to tell all women and girls who they should share their single sex spaces with.

I find it even more hypocritical that that other worn out old trope of trying to shame women by saying "Who are you to decide which toilets someone uses." I mean, the hypocrisy is rife. Someone who is ideologically driven can decide which toilets someone uses, yet the women and girls who have different needs to that person and state their needs cannot 'decide which toilets someone uses'.