Oh Trinny …

The refusal to address reality is all around. From Trinny desperate to make a point, to all the women in that show just saying nothing relevant, to two highly effeminate gays having no boundaries, now women and men conspiring for the most misogynistic of end results.

Fail!

I was looking to see that "Skyler" used the correct changing room for himself. They didn't show that.

This is how I feel, too.

I've never been a fan of any of Trinny's makeovers. Like Gok, she dresses people to a formula rather than in something that suits them.

She had a hell of a job with this one, though, and failed as miserably as expected tbh. Sometimes being kind just isn't.

Exactly this. I don't want any part in this delusion.

In defence of Primark I was in there on Saturday and needed to find the changing rooms - was told very clearly by the assistant "we have a woman only one on the first floor and an any gender one on the ground floor". and there was a big sign in the woman-only one stating this too.

But I agree with your general point

Skyler is trans. And so is the sibling. And on the TV. Fawned over by a middle class woman influencer.

I mean, how incredibly unpredictable this all is. No way could I have ever guessed this could be a thing on reality TV.

In fact, what's wackiest of all is calling any of this reality TV. Pretty much the opposite, really.

So Trinny, you keep up with the "I'm up with girl power", and Skyler and sis, you act all aggrieved when this makes this all fine for other men to be in changing rooms not in yours and Trinnys exalted class surroundings, but in Primark etc where real girls and women are forced to swallow this groupthink.

That’s exactly how I feel too. Didn’t really see any issues with the whole thing till J.K. Rowling was all of the sudden branded a ‘transphobe’.

"He's a delicate gay man!"
JFC this comment does not reflect well on you.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen 😂

I really loved Trinny’s dress in this episode.

'Didn't Trinny immediately take up with that man who tried to choke Nigella Lawson in a restaurant? I lost all respect for her then.'

Same. I find her a very prickly and strange personality, or her public persona anyway. She can be funny, and I do think that she often looks amazing, but there's way too much of what I would call aggressive positivity for my liking. I won't be wasting my time watching this, it sounds like a cringe fest

I would imagine water retention does the opposite.

I may have misheard but did Skyler say near the start that a trans woman's feet had got smaller on hrt? How is that possible?
Sadly after all the efforts, he still couldn't pass, even in a bad light. 🙁

Didn't Trinny immediately take up with that man who tried to choke Nigella Lawson in a restaurant? I lost all respect for her then.

What ever your personality, there's a type of outdoor activity (or indoor) you can do. I love body boarding and wish I hadn't felt like it wasn't as impressive as actual surfing for a few years, because quite frankly I can catch way more waves than a surfer.

I used to love riding but that's too £££ for me right now!

I'd have to agree with the widow Tawnkey comment. It brings to mind a panto dame or overly sexual look / imagine in my head. I'm not sure I'd buy from a range marketed like that. Even taking a sequined bag makes me feel like drag queen some days now, and I love sparkles.

You may be on to something. Competence (and in a team sport, shared objectives and achievements) could be a useful corrective to the mad inward-lookingness of it all.

Though maybe not the me-sculpting classes that I suspect Trinny may be keen on....

'I'm starting to think it's sport. Any sport. Anythingthat gets you moving and outside. (But not invading women's spaces obviously.)'

As a fairly late convert to exercise, I think you have a very good point. Exercise gets you out of your own head, and the emphasis is on what your body can do, and how you can challenge it to do a bit more. It's a great antidote to anxiety about what you look like

Apart from boosting mental health, it's all going to help your muscles and bones.

Golf, gold detectoring.

Surely there has to be a better way to relieve gender dysphoria than this?

I'm starting to think it's sport. Any sport. Anything that gets you moving and outside. (But not invading women's spaces obviously.)

Dog walking, climbing, hiking, riding, team sports, tai chi, judo, trampolining.
Ritchie's (who detransed and is suing the local nhs) gone for archery.

Yeah so much for sisterhood! I lost all respect when she got together with Saatchi.

Oh my goodness that made me so uncomfortable.

For one thing it reminded me how much I grew to dislike Trinny and Susannah back in the day with their ridiculous rules and offensive bossiness.

But I felt so sorry for poor Skyler. Can they really only be comfortable after undergoing painful and dangerous surgery including on their throat (owww!), taking drugs that do who knows what, and dressing like a Primark red carpet every day? And as pps point out, will they be comfortable even then? The thing about being an actual woman is that you can wear jeans and a T-shirt and be yourself. Skyler seems headed for a lifetime of calibration and second guessing their appearance 100 times a day.

Surely there has to be a better way to relieve gender dysphoria than this?

(Weirdly it also kind of highlighted to me why I kind of hate all makeover shows (clothes, homes, gardens, the lot) Just fuck off with your lady/lord bountiful "genius". ) But this one had me cringing so hard my skin was crawling.

Trinny trying to be genuinely enthusiastic about the whole charade and failing. He's a delicate gay man! Wearing a frock and shaving his Adams apple ain't gonna solve his problems.

The hilarious reveal at the end, he looked like a trans Trinny!🤣. You cldnt miss the resemblance!🤣🤣🤣
Agree with previous comment. He needs a dose of the real world. It was all a bit sad and pathetic.