virgin active changing room policy

It’s the psychological term used to describe men who get their rocks off on parading as a woman.

It’s pretty much what all men have over a certain age.

Surely the fact that they were so obvious means it's deliberately exposed? I've been in communal changing rooms before everyone has their backs turned towels draped appropriately unless your staring and really watching im sure there is nothing to see (guessing as I've never stared or watched)

@MN, please don't just delete with a link to Talk Guidelines.

Please spell out to us all the rationale behind such censorship. I'm all ears.

Was it? I thought Beverly used the acronym relating to trans identification. May be confusing it with deletions on another thread active today.

Was about to write something similar to this!

It should be taken as obvious that a male person choosing to enter the clearly marked Women's changing room and then deliberately exposing their male genitalia is aware that doing so will cause alarm and distress.

The fact that these terms are banned is alarming.

The acronym for biological males who identify as trans.

Also forms a man's 3 letter name.

@Clymene Thanks

It's disgraceful that this term is censored out of MN. What kind of totalitarian regime is running this site?

We need to return the position of a man who deliberately exposes his penis (regardless of what he's wearing or claiming to be) in a space reserved for women and girls is seen as a predator. All the statistics show that flashing is a gateway crime to more serious sexual offences. Even the police are being forced back to that position after the numerous disasters (including Wayne Couzens)

Report, report, report. Let the Stonewall captured police start investigating these creeps and have to defend any lack of action. I'd put money on it that a hard drive check on the men who do this will provide all the evidence needed to out them as sex offenders.

Personally I would complain. The more people who highlight it the better. If the signage doesn’t give an explanation that changing areas are unisex then the club is misleading you. What happens next week when a child comes face to face with this problem. Obviously I don’t know the set up of the gym but if there are alternatives why aren’t they being used. At the very least did the room have stalls that the person could have used? We are all led to believe that a TW is so dysphoric the very idea of having a male body is crippling but this person seems perfectly okay with their genitals on display. It’s all very wrong.

Airport code for Malaga.

(Sorry to be dim)

Which acronym?

Is it just the acronym that's banned?

Genuine question: could someone please tell me why BeverlyBrook's post was deleted. It was not offensive!

I think the alarm or distress is on the say-so of the alarmed or distressed person.

There was a case 13 years ago where a man who left atheist cartoons in an airport prayer room was convicted of religiously aggravated "intentional harassment, alarm or distress". He denied that the materials were either offensive or intended to cause offence, but the chaplain who reported him specifically said it caused her "alarm and distress".

The jury (who all swore on the bible) took just 15 minutes to rule that he had left the religious offence material "with the intention of causing alarm or distress". The judge told him he deserved a prison sentence. This was suspended once it had the desired effect (of causing him alarm and distress!).

This is what drives me mad.

If it’s in a park most people would struggle to justify indecent exposure but allowing any man into women’s changing rooms allows doubt to be exploited.

And now people say “oh, I didn’t think that would happen.” 🙄

Their policy is incredibly woolly and seems up to the local manager to some extent. Like @BeverlyBrook my previous club manager said he’d never let a TW use the women’s changing rooms, but then he left and his replacement was much more vague. Wouldn’t supply any information on when it would be allowed, what training had been given etc. so I left and told them why.

AFAIK, only Bannatyne’s commit to single sex changing rooms.

Gyms in my area have a substantial discount for a 12 month membership paid in advance.

So you could join, discover there are naked males in your changing room and not be able to leave, as you've already paid in advance.

And BeverlyBrook's post gets deleted in 3, 2, 1...

In April this year a poster on Mumsnet said, on a thread about gyms' policies on gender identity and use of changing rooms,
"Or virgin active? They told me men could get their penis out in the changing rooms in front of my daughters when I asked them to clarify. And I did ask that specific question and they said yes."

OP, check you specific gym's policy by all means.

Get on Twitter and tag in the actual gym.

Wouldn't you have to prove that intention?

If a person displays male genitalia in a space whether nudity is permitted/usual and where male persons are allowed to be by company policy (because gender identity) it would, I think, be very difficult to prove.