virgin active changing room policy

We must repeal the GRA - the fact that this is a topic of uncertainty is appalling

I would applaud anyone who marched out of the changing room and loudly declared that there was a flashing male in the female space, but given past stories about just these scenarios, be prepared that YOU would be the one ejected and banned from the gym/pool.
For being a bigot.......or something.

Can you imagine the balls (pun intended) it takes for these men to go ahead and expose their genitals in front of a room of women and girls? Every time I try to think what must be going through their heads, I just can't. Are they so far down the gender rabbit hole that they genuinely see their penis as a "lady penis" that won't cause a deep seated reaction from a female who is forced to see it?
Males getting naked in front of other males in gyms and changing rooms is one thing and something that most makes will have done at some point, but to do that same thing in a room full of women who YOU KNOW are going to notice and have a visceral reaction to it, is quite another.

Just how the ever loving hell do they think they have a right to distress people like this?
And how the fuck have we got to this point?

Just today I read a news article that says NHS staff have been warned not to show "sympathy" with women who complain about males in their spaces. They are not allowed to engage with the idea that it might be offensive, scary, unsettling or worrisome for women.
Gaslighting to the max and selling women's dignity and safety down the river for the benefit of some men.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Bring on the asteroid.

So an autogynephile? Fuck off MN why are you defending perverts and peados? Sick.

I’ve met so many people who think the same and not just older generations, I’ve had discussions with work colleagues in their 30s who were convinced that a transwoman is ‘a woman who reckons they’re a bloke.’ I really wonder how much this misunderstanding of the terminology skews opinion polls.

Not according to medieval authorities of the church in Paris, who insisted that the scholar Peter Abelard, after he had been subjected to non-consentual full surgery, should never be in the presence of his lover Heloise again, because he could engage in sexual activities with her.
I wouldn't trust a man who voluntarily went through castration and then appeared in the women's changing room further than I could push him. And I couldn't use the self defence moves my Dad learned in the army, and taught me, because he no longer had the place the moves started.

A huge part of the problem is language.

These days the terms 'man', 'woman', 'male', 'female', 'sex', 'gender' have different meanings to different people.

And many people - especially the older generations - think a trans woman is a female who dresses as a man.

You know what, I will. Let's see what transpires eh

"you might think he's a woman, but be clear there's a man under that skirt"

Omce you decide a man is a woman, voyeurism and indecent exposure stop being crimes.

I asked one of the politicians, I forget which one, on a web chat, what were women supposed to do if a man was in their changing room, one foot on the bench, moisturising his thighs, and trying to make eye contact.

The question, of course, was ignored.

He could equally be trying to make contact with a child in there, of course.

it really is quite extraordinary how this evidently criminal scenario is being pushed through.

" Clearly if there are cubicles, the trans women could have used one but instead chose to show off a naked penis "

I think confining themselves to a cubicle would defeat the purpose of the mission for the person in question.

I didn’t mean that women should have to hide. It was a simple question of are the cubicles or just an open space

Clearly if there are cubicles, the trans women could have used one but instead chose to show off a naked penis

That’s flashing

Merager complained to a local magazine that the women weren't done for indecent exposure! It's discrimination against men. TRA = MRA in plain sight:
"Why weren’t the two dozen women in the spa indecently exposed? Only men can be indecently exposed, but women can’t? Only the penis is indecent.”

Didnt WiSpa do this.
The woman in reception was told about orientation? Which means bugger all in a single sex space (not a safe space, no such thing)
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/07/the-wi-spa-scandal-is-worse-than-we-thought/

Unfortunately they will gaslight you that anyone who is in there and says there are a woman is a woman. Even if they're six foot four with a beard and their tackle out.

Rather like the NHS telling that poor woman that the video footage of her being raped was not real. 2+2 make 5 Winston. Say it, or it's the rats.

Why is the burden on women to make provision for men who shouldn’t be there in the first place?

Googling the airport code for Malaga... ahh who'd have guessed that one?

@BeverlyBrook that is really interesting after my interaction with them in 2020.
Would you mind asking them to put it in writing, and asking head office to confirm.
When I did, the manager of my gym agreed with me but asked head office to confirm who said it was the law to allow men in there if they wanted to flash their penis at my daughters.

Yes it is, it's a thing, we all know it is, why they heck can't we talk about it.....

I agree with another poster. Twitter this please.

Who is your MP OP? Would they be supportive?

Well fancy that. I got deleted. Had no idea I wasn't allowed to say any of what I said.

I will repeat it and see if it scrapes through the censor.

I phoned up my virgin active gym and asked them if women's changing was only for women. A definite yes and to come and tell reception if anyone was there who shouldn't be.

It should be illegal to describe a changing room or toilet as being for Women if biological males are permitted to use it.

Why are there trading standards about not falsely describing what you sell & ads banned for being deceptive, but women can be intentionally deceived about who is going to be let use spaces that have been understood for centuries to be for biological women only?

All changing rooms that men identifying as women are permitted to enter should be labelled as unisex, because the second one of them is in there it is not a womens changing room.

Eventually the inevitable will happen, there will be a major assault that escapes into the press, and then we'll see a lot of politicians suddenly reversing ferrets at high speed.

Sadly no one appears to be willing to listen to women; only to bad publicity when the body count becomes too noticeable.

This. Call the police. But maybe a bit late now
next time go to front desk, say you are calling the police under this act. And phone in front of them
make sure you can describe man accurately, ideally quietly ask another women to look and confirm as second witness