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Could Elon Musk help feminists?

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ArabeIIaScott · 06/08/2023 09:23

Specifically, he is offering to fund the legal fees of people who have lost work due to reports of things they've liked or tweeted.

Already the Australian councillor who was suspended for saying Transwomen are male and James Esses have asked for help.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1688022163574439937

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1688022163574439937

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7Worfs · 06/08/2023 14:24

SmartHome · 06/08/2023 14:20

Yes I agree. He's done it for personal GC reasons to a large extent, not just as part of an investment portfolio. When you're one of the richest people in the world you can use it to fund things you believe in or things you want to try and improve, wouldn't we all?

No, he’s an outlier as far as current day billionaires go.
No one comes even close to pursuing wild, expensive, personal quests. Also he genuinely speaks his mind, hence so many up in arms about him.

SmartHome · 06/08/2023 14:20

Yes I agree. He's done it for personal GC reasons to a large extent, not just as part of an investment portfolio. When you're one of the richest people in the world you can use it to fund things you believe in or things you want to try and improve, wouldn't we all?

7Worfs · 06/08/2023 14:17

ThatsMsAtomicBob · 06/08/2023 11:19

He doesn't care about free speech. He only cares about his free speech, and that's a crucial difference.

Considering former employees are having to take the company to court to get the severance packages they were promised, that the company is not paying bills they are contracted to and that he is such an attention vampire, I wouldn't count on him for anything. He will use the attention you are giving him him as long as it suits him - probably not very long - and then move on to the next thing.

Well that’s a load of horse apples.

The man literally spent $40bil to break up the insular and censoring bubble that was Twitter. And it was a loud and powerful bubble that affected real life, policy and law. He’s not seeing those billions back - it wasn’t an investment.

SunnyEgg · 06/08/2023 13:54

This is really great

We need a single sex equivalent to get the law moving to not be anti women

SmartHome · 06/08/2023 13:54

He's already helped massively by making it possible to disagree with queer theory online again. The activist's had almost succeeded in silencing all dissent before that.

WanderingWitches · 06/08/2023 13:52

He just tweeted this too

Could Elon Musk help feminists?
ThatsMsAtomicBob · 06/08/2023 13:41

Christ.🫠

dcbc1234 · 06/08/2023 13:31

I am liking him more and more and maybe he has rebranded Twitter to X so as to make a clear division between times of censorship and free speech. I can't see why he would exclude feminists from this offer.
It would save us having to keep funding all these cases.

WanderingWitches · 06/08/2023 12:56

Looks like he's already speaking to someone who got fired for liking GC tweets!

Could Elon Musk help feminists?
Could Elon Musk help feminists?
WanderingWitches · 06/08/2023 12:48

This is going to be fascinating!
Just one big case in the UK for us and it will be a game changer.

lady69 · 06/08/2023 12:00

Good for him!

southbiscay · 06/08/2023 11:28

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. And I'll support free speech most of the way but I'm not an absolutist.

However...
He has had personal experience with trans ideology and just the act of saying what he has said has an effect in itself

ThatsMsAtomicBob · 06/08/2023 11:19

He doesn't care about free speech. He only cares about his free speech, and that's a crucial difference.

Considering former employees are having to take the company to court to get the severance packages they were promised, that the company is not paying bills they are contracted to and that he is such an attention vampire, I wouldn't count on him for anything. He will use the attention you are giving him him as long as it suits him - probably not very long - and then move on to the next thing.

BellsMoon · 06/08/2023 11:13

Not a good man?

He's bloody influential is what he is. A case funded by him would have the highest media profile.

He cares deeply about free speech so some of the cases he chooses to fund may not be palatable to you or me, but if he chooses one gender critical case in the UK, I really think it would be a game changer.

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 06/08/2023 11:10

wellthatslikeyouropinionman · 06/08/2023 10:50

The post is not about him being inherently good. Is anyone?

It's about whether his actions can help feminism.

Your analysis is spot on though. I guess it would be put down to ADHD which would then absolve him of wrongdoing as it's just 'his ADHD brain'

Fair enough, but I just feel like anyone who ends up in Musk's orbit is likely to find themselves getting flung into the sun.

I always remember that diver who ended up having to fight off peadophile allegations because he dared to suggest that Musk wasn't being entirely helpful with his submarine idea.

RebelliousCow · 06/08/2023 10:50

wellthatslikeyouropinionman · 06/08/2023 10:48

Chaotic good is the philosophy that goodness is best achieved through the freedom of individuals to act independently.

Pretty self-explanatory term and I really like it!

Chaos is certainly a precursor of creativity and oriiginality.

wellthatslikeyouropinionman · 06/08/2023 10:50

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 06/08/2023 10:41

I think that Elon could be incredibly helpful, right up to the moment he loses interest. At which point he'll renege on any financial promises, and try to tear you down if you dared to say anything about it.

He's not a good man, he's a capricious billionaire whos only interest is furthering the cause of Elon Musk

The post is not about him being inherently good. Is anyone?

It's about whether his actions can help feminism.

Your analysis is spot on though. I guess it would be put down to ADHD which would then absolve him of wrongdoing as it's just 'his ADHD brain'

RebelliousCow · 06/08/2023 10:49

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 06/08/2023 10:41

I think that Elon could be incredibly helpful, right up to the moment he loses interest. At which point he'll renege on any financial promises, and try to tear you down if you dared to say anything about it.

He's not a good man, he's a capricious billionaire whos only interest is furthering the cause of Elon Musk

Good/bad.......... He's a human being like any other - but one who has more influence than most. Even if he just uses that influence for a brief period and it is helpful to the cause then I think most of us would settle for that.

wellthatslikeyouropinionman · 06/08/2023 10:48

RebelliousCow · 06/08/2023 09:29

...as in " chaotic good".

Chaotic good is the philosophy that goodness is best achieved through the freedom of individuals to act independently.

Pretty self-explanatory term and I really like it!

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 06/08/2023 10:41

I think that Elon could be incredibly helpful, right up to the moment he loses interest. At which point he'll renege on any financial promises, and try to tear you down if you dared to say anything about it.

He's not a good man, he's a capricious billionaire whos only interest is furthering the cause of Elon Musk

SerendipityJane · 06/08/2023 10:39

Harry Cole v. Humberside fascist bastards might have taken a very different turn.

Rainbowshit · 06/08/2023 10:32

Wow. A few high profile lawsuits would definitely be a game changer.

Signalbox · 06/08/2023 10:20

God please let him follow through on this at least once for a case in the UK.

Helleofabore · 06/08/2023 10:04

ArabeIIaScott · 06/08/2023 09:31

There are already cases set up and running with fundraising drives that need help.

Will it encourage women to sue their employers if they know they can access legal help?

I'd be a bit cautious about trusting Musk to stick to his word, but its an interesting thought how this might change the landscape.

I am with you on this one. I think he is certainly doing it for the free speech aspect. However, whatever his reason, if it gets some court cases through about this type of action, then it will certainly make people take note of discriminating against women for standing up for their boundaries.

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