Irish politician who supported the GRA now discovers he's expected to learn about 58 genders, he's not happy!

I'm glad the Germans gave us the word

Schadenfreude

I’m just glad he’s not digging his heels in. A lot of people were suckered by BeKind and RightSideOfHistory and while the best time to stop this was yesterday, the second best is today.

Argh.

I constantly wonder: are the people busy enabling all this stark raving bonkers, malicious, or naively stupid and haven't bothered to inform themselves properly?

It is almost depressing to discover it's the latter. Fgs, no one at any stage of this shit show has done any due diligence, whether it's a school doing a basic background check of the qualifications (and sexually exciting social media antics) of the person about to deliver training and influence school policy, or apparently the people running the bloody country.

He must feel a bit foolish now. He's probably no more idiotic that pols all over the world who've been enabling thus snx possibly a bit less since he's prepared to see it now but...it's hard not to feel a bit exasperated with these people.

I'm tired of the dancing around the wording of the GRA whenever the wording suits.
One moment the GRA does not apply to kids, the next we have to respect the kids choices because we are not supposed to ask or assume that they will or will not want a GRA in future.

Which one is it? It applies or it doesn't apply? Because if it is not the root cause of stating boys can share dorms with girls in TQ+ guidance, which legislation is?

Also, I obviously echo those saying wtf did he think he was supporting?! And further, what's he going to do about it now that he knows the truth?

And it's not just the GRA, it's the Equality Act, too (is it the same there as in England?). There's no age limit in the EA on the "Gender reassignment" PC and as we saw with the Haldene judgement, if it's not 1000% nailed down, people will use the most lax interpretation. Plus, as uou rightly say, the fudge for adults, facilitates the fudge for kids.

Linking it to the referendum was so dishonest - there was nothing in the referendum about gender.

When you pass laws like this you set a social signal which means the other shit happens and is harder to put the brakes on. Because the Irish government has now says, ‘yes, males who say they are females are and in all and every circumstance’. That makes it pretty impossible for schools in practice to say, ‘no they are not, we separate sleeping, changing and toilets by sex’.

I have no respect for people who supported this shit and are now like, ‘hang on, you mean it means…!’

It’s not like we haven’t been making our case clearly and calmly and with logic and evidence. They could have read some of that, engaged in conversations with us.

What the fuck happened to understanding all sides of an issue and informing yourself before making a decision?!

like that woman in Scotland after the Isla Bryson case who was like, ‘ I’m appalled! I supported the GRA, I celebrated when it was passed and now this.!’
what on earth did she think it would mean to say men were women in their say so?!

The GRA doesn't mean that because it is only in effect for adults currently. It also has absolutely nothing to do with 58 genders. Should he have done better due diligence about what it did mean? Yes absolutely. Though it was 2015 and it was attached to the very popular, voted in by landslide referendum, Marriage Equality Act that most of the country was delighted about. It was hidden like that for a reason. But it currently only means that adults can legally change their sex to the other a maximum of two times.

Ha! Is he only speaking up because he has to take work home.

Also, 58, fifty eight
That seems so random. And so many more than I can think of. I can think of male female, self consciously non binary.
And 55 more 🤨

Precisely. The damage they've caused, and now they're bewailing the fact that they didn't actually understand the implications? Fucking muppets.

I'm glad he is speaking up - so many aren't in Ireland, which is frustrating. But I have to ask, what did he think the GRA actually meant? Did he really not think there would be wide ranging consequences to it?

These are the people enacting laws - surely they do their due diligence? Why did he (and others) not critically analyse whether or not it was a good idea to allow people legally change sex.