Where is the drive coming from?

I think so few hiring managers CAN see it.

The head of safeguarding I mentioned who has been converted, is a man in his 60s who has worked at my school for over 30 years, teaching multiple generations of the same families. An old school tie type man. The type you'd think would be too traditional to be converted by Be Kind.

He doesn't think too deeply about it, trusts the head of EDI has looked into it, she is the resident expert. He hears the pseudo legalese, the misrepresentations of the Equality Act, and swallows it all. He's your average boss, imo. This is how the average boss is reacting to their head of EDI.

There is something odd going on though, that’s not visible, or at least that’s how it feels. There is Helen Joyce’s sunk costs theory: people who have transed their children, or allowed them to be transed, cannot afford psychologically to backtrack. Where they are in positions of power, changing the direction of travel is going to be nearly impossible.

I think this aspect shouldn't be underestimated. When someone comes over as completely TWAW and won't listen to any other viewpoint, it often turns out that they have a child or a close relative who identifies as trans.

There are a lot of Susie Greens out there now. And if one of them is in a position of power in a company or organisation, they can force the whole company/organisation to go along with their belief. The Society of Authors being an obvious example. People can be scared of upsetting the person with the trans identified child/relative or getting fired for doing so.

Very possibly a few are motivated by this, the ones pushing the medical side of things.

I'm inclined to the more prosaic view about the msjority of this movement: the men behind all this crave (even more) power over women. Sexual power and control. See eg the men on sports authorities allowing men into female sports. Or the authorities allowing men into female prisons. See the high profile 3-letter acronym men.

The few women who dance to their tune, as you put it, are socialised to "protect" vulnerable males against us uppity hags.

The transhumanism side of things is definitely part of it but only the medical part, the body "correction" part. The other political manoeuvres aren't medical. Purely women-punishing.

No, I don't suppose she is. I was referring to the ones pulling the strings, not the ones dancing to their tune.

Yes indeed but the assistant head/head of EDI is a woman, a female "she/they". Early 30s. Totally evangelical.

I have a separate friend who is similar in beliefs and outspokenness and demographic.

A recent group chat quote from said friend "but don't forget some dick pics ARE solicited"

I don't think my school she-they is motivated by a drive for transhumanism. She, like that friend of mine, is totally socialised to be kind to "vulnerable" males. Socialised to believe that older or firm-minded women are hags.

i think in the U.K. the high tide is about now. As labour are moving towards a compromise position, other centre left-ish people and orgs will dare to do so with that permission/ cover.

I wish I believed you were right. A couple of years back, it looked as if Stonewall were on the ropes. They hid their list of signed up companies and hunkered down. They still have an incredible stranglehold on British institutions of all kinds and at all levels.

And now look what’s happening with the banks.

This is so deeply embedded, it’s impossible to see where it starts and ends. I believe women’s rights will win eventually, but it’s going to be a very long road still.

I should have known. Isn't it appalling when parents have to watch their daughters have boundaries smashed by men - teachers and students?

I think it's a drive towards AI and transhumanism.

Once you have separated humans from the biological reality of male and female it is but a short step towards separating humans from the biological reality of being human.

This came top down and some powerful group is determined to get more power.

You better hope I'm wrong.

Sorry I meant safe schools alliance! Typing in a hurry

Yep way ahead of you I'm afraid - I forwarded lots of resources and legal explainers from safe sex alliance, transgender trend etc. Backed up the points with specific past incidents at my actual school. I carefully wrote my concerns to be as concise and legally informative as possible.

Head of safeguarding said thank you. He would monitor developments and take situations on a case by case basis.

Policy never got changed (this was maybe 18m ago, still hasn't changed). Since my email several more trans girls came out (ie MTF students) and were very much openly celebrated for doing so by assistant head mentioned. Head of safeguarding, who I'd written to, added pronouns to his email signature a few months later.

We have by no means reached the peak of the wave. This is the waves seeming to recede before the tsunami. The problem in schools is only going to get bigger and bigger before it goes away.

Yep, agree with RealityFan and another post touched on it as well.

Many of these companies have metrics they are in some way tied to which means they need to be seen to be addressing certain things,or taking certain kinds of action. Maybe, points for having a black history shout out on a product, say. Or encouraging customers to embrace inclusivity, whatever.

It doesn't matter that these things don't have bugger all to do with their products, it just gives them points, basically.

I saw a complaint about the sex education materials in a school and their complaint investigation was to ask the provider who said it was fine.

I mean, crikey.

Yes it is all about the ESG scores. Which are needed for funding/loans/cashflow etc. Much better access when you tick the ESG boxes. And a flag is alot cheaper than reducing landfill.or child labour.

I've mentioned before the Sustainability goals. These all meet the requirements internationally and so that is all they care about. The fact that they may not have a sustainable business never seems to cross their minds.

In my observation there are 3 ingredients:

1. One or two strong TRAs pushing 'no debate' and actively holding company/org leaders to account on trans inclusivity
2. Folk who are clueless about it all and just want to go along with whatever is 'right' and inclusive, therefore support everything said by group 1.
3. People who are gender critical, want to push back but know that they will be publicly shamed, ostracized and pushed out of their jobs by groups 1&2 in combo.

The "Corporate Diversity Index".

And the fact that they see their new customers in the "enlightened" 15-25 or even 15-35 group, who are more tuned into this message, gradually replacing the older Gammons and Karens who object to this stuff, but represent a shrinking part of their customer base.

So, they virtue signal to their own kind, ie other FTSE 500 companies re their Stonewalled diversity credentials, and virtue signal "signifying" messages to their switched on burgeoning customer base that is their main base in 5-10 years hence, when we're all put out to pasture.

That is completely correct. The Labour Party have had this problem and it's only going to be corrected with more women getting involved and pushing back.

I agree that it's probably a mixed bag of companies hiring young graduate who are full on board with TWAW etc. and start making changes demands when they join the HR/ Marketing department.

Along with wanting to appear 'ethical' without having to actually do the hard work of paying a living wage or ensuring an ethical supply chain, which are both expensive and may eat into shareholder profits - however displaying a rainbow flag around the place is cheap and easy to do.

I would also add that most companies' twitter and media accounts are run by younger employees and therefore the brand message is very much set by their worldview.

I know it seems like I'm blaming the young people - not necessarily, as I believe the failure is also on the part of more experienced management etc. who fail to set boundaries or just go along with this shit. Although they may be afraid of appearing mean or bigoted when told that this is 'the new gay' and don't really see the harm.

As a small aside, just got back from a brief visit to the tourist area of south of France and saw nothing of this.

That's appalling Mummy08m
As you've written you're probably aware of them but have you contacted Safe Schools Alliance about this? Just in case you haven't here's their factsheet on single sex facilities:

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/singlesextoiletsfactsheet.pdf

"the sexism / misogyny of a lot of centrist or leftish men has been revealed by these issues."

Even as a left supporter/former member of Labour Party I think decades of misogyny has flourished in this political area as supported by trade unions who, traditionally, were about workers rights which included protecting jobs for men from women.

Such a good question. When you watch the determination with which some men defend a man's right to access naked girls in changing rooms, when you start to list the flashing / porn obsessions of some of those born males our MPs choose to listen to about removing safeguarding and safety for women, when you look at cash strapped councils finding the resources for drag queens to access even the youngest of children while cutting other activities for children, it's raises the question about who benefits from all this? And the answers are worrying about the nature of some of these people being openly courted.

And then the NHS - having to be dragged away screaming from sterilising children, staff lying and openly perverting the course of justice to protect a male rapist placed on a women's ward... the most senior people not just ignoring this but openly supporting it.

Many companies, including schools, have a role where it's a person's entire job to push this kind of change. For example head of EDI. There's one at my school, one of the Pastoral assistant heads. This kind of job inevitably attracts the type of person who has "inclusive" beliefs (nb not inclusive of vulnerable women and girls or people with religious beliefs).

No one's actual job is to push back on this stuff. That requires customers' complaints and internal whistleblowers.

But these complaints get passed onto the above person, head of EDI or equivalent.

Who dismisses it.

Etc.

This has happened at my school. I pushed back via a letter to the Head of safeguarding about a new policy, written by the assistant head above mentioned, encouraging boys to use the female changing rooms if they felt more comfortable there through "questioning their gender". This was so soon after my school had disproportionately high number of reports of SA via Everyone's Invited.

I got given a lipservice response and the policy wasn't changed. I've no doubt it was simply forwarded to the above person who said "it's ok, stonewall/mermaids says it's what the Equality Act requires".

@Cloudburstings

"ESG teams and HR teams are on the look out for new stuff to do. Things that don’t cost much like the pride flag and guidance on pronouns on emails are attractive vs making the financial case to close the male / female pay gap."

Definitely this - it's easier to do, doesn't cost much and ticks a box.

It's everywhere, if I see that flag one more time I'll scream. All the shops on the high street, all the banks. Not so bad for a tiny persecuted minority...

No inclusion for any other groups.

All these businesses and banks trade with countries with horrific human rights record. They drop the flag from their logo when they are trading with homophobic countries. I am just so sick and tired of the misogyny and homophobia.

My autistic, sex stereotype non conforming daughter does not have a snowballs chance in hell.