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Good article by Andrew Neil... but no Glinner

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Grimbelina · 02/08/2023 15:29

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12362329/ANDREW-NEIL-Im-proud-TERF-join-JK-Rowling-line-gender-wars.html

A good article, and an acknowledgment that he was 'ungracious' when questioned about how long it has taken him to take up the baton. However I wish he had mentioned Graham and all the very 'heavy lifting' he has done, at huge personal expense.

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PaulaPennyfeather · 02/08/2023 19:59

eatfigs · 02/08/2023 19:52

Graham needs to calm down and understand that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Flying off the handle at people just pisses them off.

Completely agree!

eatfigs · 02/08/2023 19:52

Graham needs to calm down and understand that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Flying off the handle at people just pisses them off.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 02/08/2023 16:28

Bloody good for him.

LaLoba · 02/08/2023 16:26

It read to me as him trying to show good grace after his initial, more defensive reaction to women wondering why he hadn’t noticed this before, and those women (not unreasonably ) pointing out that women have been fighting this for some time.
In a piece applauding the women who spoke up when no one mainstream wanted to listen, I think an all female list of voices is appropriate.

KohlaParasaurus · 02/08/2023 16:23

I agree, I am glad he's acknowledged that it's women who prepared the ground that he's now walking on, but I think a nod to the fact that he isn't the first man to have dared to risk the consequences of speaking up wouldn't go amiss.

Abhannmor · 02/08/2023 16:16

Well that , as they say , escalated quickly didn't it...

stealtheatingtunnocks · 02/08/2023 16:04

andrew didn’t mention me either and I don’t make over 60k on substack by talking about it.

yes Glinner has been brave and lost much, but he’s doing ok.

What about Gillian Phipps who’s driving a truck instead of writing books? She needs to fund a court case, by the way.

Motorina · 02/08/2023 15:57

Good article. He's properly peaked.

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Grimbelina · 02/08/2023 15:56

I can't see a reading of my post that suggests I think he should mention Glinner over all the others who have risked livelihoods etc.... but I feel uncomfortable with the inference that no men have been vocal... apart from Andrew Neil now of course...

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/08/2023 15:45

Meh. Why do you think he should mention Glinner over all the others who've lost so much and made so many sacrifices to stand up for women's rights and child safety?
I can think of dozens of women he's not mentioned but I'm sure they're not demanding he centres them - and I don't think that Glinner would be demanding it either?