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Grace Lavery reviews Helen Joyce, Julie Bindel, and Kathleen Stock

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ArabeIIaScott · 01/08/2023 12:28

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/gender-criticism-versus-gender-abolition-on-three-recent-books-about-gender/

Lavery is very proud of this piece. I've got halfway through and am going to have to have a wee break and maybe a nap.

So far, I gather that Lavery knows far more than these women do about womanhood, because Lavery has read a lot of books.

Gender Criticism Versus Gender Abolition: On Three Recent Books About Gender

Grace Lavery reviews Julie Bindel’s “Feminism for Women: The Real Tribute to Liberation,” Helen Joyce’s “Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality,” and Kathleen Stock’s “Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism.”...

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/gender-criticism-versus-gender-abolition-on-three-recent-books-about-gender

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ArabeIIaScott · 01/08/2023 12:39

And at long last, the conclusion:

'Feminism, from Frances Power Cobbe to the present, has had a different and better answer: gender abolitionism. Gender abolitionists haven’t cared what a woman is, who wants to be one, or why; they have argued against all legal discrimination between men and women. Yes, this would mean the end of gender recognition certificates, as well as many other elements of legal segregation that we take for granted.'

So this is Lavery's suggestion.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate.

Apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate

Apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate to legally change your gender.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-gender-recognition-certificate

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ArabeIIaScott · 01/08/2023 12:31

tl;dr: Here's Lavery's conclusion:

'Material Girls is the work of an anti-feminist gadfly, circumventing peer review to talk about philosophers she doesn’t really understand; Trans is an incoherent set of vapid polemics by an author of singular incuriosity, by far the least credible of the three; and Feminism for Women is a reactionary feminist’s cri de coeur—at its best, genuinely stirring, even for those readers unwilling to cheer on Bindel’s more lurid cruelties'

Seems particularly angry with Helen Joyce. Perhaps because of the famous Chickening Out incident, wherein Lavery backed out of a debate.

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