Starmer Radio 5 "A woman is an Adult female"

Why did you say, and I quote "Some women have penises" and "the phrase 'only women have a cervix' is something that shouldn't be said, it's not right" when you are now saying "a woman is an adult female, let's clear that one up."? Which position a) do you personally believe and b) is Labour policy?

He's deploying the same strategy with ULEZ. Wants Khan to "reflect on the roll-out" says it's not a simple yes/no. Well, it is for those working nights shifts in low paid jobs.

You can't lawyer your way out of questions with fudges and tricky wording, all the time and expect people not to tire of it. Have an opinion. It seems to be the most basic we expect of politicians - being for or against a policy.

He knows it is a single sex exemption. Not a safe space.

Now why oh why would he fudge that up?

He's still not being straight about this though is he ? Tweaking of the words - safe spaces not single sex spaces. This man is a lawyer so knows about accurate use of language. I don't trust this lot not the completely backtrack if they win the next GE.

I've said it before that I have never seen Starmer nor any Labour MP mention the Cass Review at all. They have just ignored it whilst at the same time maintaining TWAW and in Starmer's case doing Pink News 'Hostage Videos'.
If politics were not in thrall to 'gender identity ideology', any sane UK opposition party would have been making hay with all the gender woo mess the Tories have presided over. Instead the Tories have listened to voters legitimate concerns and tried to row things back starting with Truss/Johnson not implementing May's 'self id' nonsense which I don't think was trumpeted as a policy on election leaflets, so no one really even considered its implications for their vote at the time.

He needs to do a Mumsnet chat on this.

I find it almost funny that Starmer is such an inept liar. Obviously all politicians lie, or at least all the senior ones. But some are better at it than others. All Starmer has done on this issue is to flip-flop endlessly while pretending that his current view is one he's always held - as if we haven't noticed that not so long ago he was telling us that some women had penises and that it was very wrong of Rosie Duffield to claim that only women could have a cervix.

Too late, dickhead.

I CBA to read RMW's nonsense (sorry), but why would non-binary people need to be mentioned when the question was 'what is a woman?'

(The reason I CBA to read it is because in the wake of Bryson, Dolatowski, Amy George etc etc it's so transparently fucking obvious why trans identifying males can't be trusted that I'm rolling my eyes too much to focus.)

"Why, trans people will ask, can they still not be trusted when they say who they are? And why do non-binary people not get a mention?" ( RMW)
Let me see...
Isla Bryson (pink leggings rapey man, in case you've forgotten)
Sarah Jane Baker (punch a TERF)
Lia Thomas (strolling about with his tackle out, after stealing women's medals)
The Anne person (strolling about amongst teenaged girls getting changed)
That's just off the top of my head. There are LOTS more.

Safeguarding, Robin: safeguarding. The policy that means that an elderly granny isn't allowed to hear readers in the school that her grandchild attends and where her daughter works without a DBS check.

You shouldn't need to have this explained to you. Indeed, I am 100% it has already been explained to you. Sticking your fingers in your ears and going LALALALA is not a good look.

So Starmer manages to piss off women, AND Jones/Pink News/MRW. Is there a special prize for that (a colourful flag maybe)?

Glad the media are waking up and holding their feet to the fire. This is a great issue for a proper journalist to get their teeth into.

Poor old Starmer. He can't do anything right.

Thing is Jones will still vote for him at the end of the day.

Yep, same here. I've voted Labour in every GE I was old enough for but no more. They're liars, just like Conservatives. The only difference is they lie about ideology and human rights instead of the Economy and profit. At least the Tories are pretty honest about what they stand for. This lot claim to be socialists that represent the common man - just as long as not an actual female I guess.

I too can't take him seriously, weasally voice, constantly obfuscating and avoiding - he used the word 'reflect on' about 12 times the other day in an interview about the seat they lost instead of just being honest and owning it. I can't stand people like that, gas lighting is second nature to them.

The Tories must be wetting themselves. The next GE should be an opposition shoe in. But it won't be.

I can no longer stand his voice. It really grates on me. I cannot vote for labour with him in charge. The issue with him potentially resigning is that a more hardline candidate may be sought. So I suppose the bottom line is that I cannot vote for labour full stop.

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He's a self-serving weasel, saying what he thinks will win him the election, nothing more, nothing less

Same as every leader since circa 1990 then, with the exception of Corbyn and possibly Theresa May - who interestingly were both slated across the political spectrum as the worst leaders in their respective party’s recent history. Unfortunately FPTP rewards bullshitters who sell happy lies. Most people don’t want to hear hard solutions.

Any bets on how long till he has to resign.

Well he's 100 percent transphobic and 100 percent not to be trusted by women.

Wiggle your way out of that one!

True but I think OK was announcing that he has sacked Starmer

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/07/26/keir-starmer-labour-trans-adult-female/

Starmer isn't very popular right now

These sound bites don't mean anything, as usual no depth golf questioning.

Personal I think Starmer has always believed a woman is an adult female but what's important here is what he believes a transwoman is and if he understands and believes in sex vs gender and single sex spaces.

The moment NC said 'I don't understand' Starner floundered, I don't believe they've changed their position they just want to disassociate themselves from self id.

I have no doubt that White will be along any moment now to scold and point out that those women don't matter, and that female people should just shut up, enable and do what they're told.

Hasn't worked so far. Is working less on about a weekly basis.

Because in the real world they are NOT who they say they are, and they cannot expect to control other people's inner lives, perceptions and realities.

Particularly when a very misogynist attempt to force this on women without consent has ended with the victims of Karen White and Isla Bryson among others, where believing a male person was what they said they were resulted in life changing harms and injuries.

This is male entitlement gone berserk.

They really throw their toys out of the pram when they don't get the red carpet treatment they are used to. It really is all or nothing for TRA activists.

"Why, trans people will ask, can they still not be trusted when they say who they are? And why do non-binary people not get a mention?" ( RMW)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/25/labour-courage-past-lgbtq-rights-trans-people