Starmer Radio 5 "A woman is an Adult female"

I know "authenticity" is what we all want from our leaders after the cult of personality that was Johnson, and the flame out that was Truss, and the Cali tech bro act that is Sunak.

But the authenticity I want, and I suspect most here, is the ability to engage with facts and concepts. For me, a politician like Badenoch or Cates is more in tune with facts than Starmer.

Starmer may have the more authentic backstory and interesting CV. But he's sadly not in command of being authentic on gender, itself a hugely inauthentic set of delusions.

A woman is an adult female

I couldn't listen to the whole interview as he sounded really creepy and sycophantic when each new caller came on.

What I'd quite like KS to say about the cervix comment is

'Can I be completely honest? I didn't know exactly what a cervix was and I was put on the spot and didn't want to look like an idiot so I sort of improvised. Sorry about that.'

I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what happened with quite a lot of the cervix conversation. I've noticed a lot of men (and a surprising number of women) have no idea what they are except being a vaguely genital thing.

(Anyone who listened to 'my dad wrote a porno' will know this is quite widespread )

For me it's quite straightforward. Can Starmer equalise relations with the GC side of the party, or is this all PR guff to deflect via smoke and mirrors?

Exactly

Deeds not words

Of course the thing that loads of people talk about isn't talked about on the doorstep.

And now the thing that Starmer is gracious enough to have cleared up despite there being no talk about it on the doorstep will be so clear to people to cease discussion at the doorstep.

Which specific article today? Can u link to it? I honestly feel so unsafe in the world nowadays. It really helps to read comments where people are not throwing women under the bus.

Did anyone ask him if a man with a GRC to say they are the opposite sex is also legally an adult female?

What is extraordinary is that it was not so long ago that everyone was saying that there was no issue to discuss, it was not being talked about on the doorsteps, that any other matter was more important than women’s safety and rights. Seems it is important after all if votes are needed.

Sorru

Should have said cannot stand on all women short lists

If Starmer is serious about this he could announce right now that transwomen can stand on all women short lists.

I think this is as good as it gets re declared policy, what is a woman? answers. Tightened up vagueness to my mind still means vague.

I'm not sure if Starmer will set out in any great detail what his GRA enhancements will amount to etc. Voting for him and his vague policy will demand a lot of faith.

I'll place a lot of emphasis in how he re-engages, if he does at all, with Rosie and the LWD banned from previous conferences, and whether Rosie feels it's safe for her to attend.

For me it's quite straightforward. Can Starmer equalise relations with the GC side of the party, or is this all PR guff to deflect via smoke and mirrors?

Critically for me, it's gone past the point of no return. Labours inability to engage with material reality, a basic premise of putting any adults in charge of stuff (that's why we don't let kids who believe in the Tooth Fairy be in charge of anything except jelly eating duties), means that my pen can never go near the Labour box at elections anymore.

Yes that would be on my list too Alison

What about apologising for allowing Wes Streeting to keep spreadsheets on which women to kick out of the party for knowing that a woman is an adult human female?

Honestly like we’re being gaslit!
This feels so disingenuous when there’s no acknowledgment that they have reflected and rightly changed course (because they’ve realised women will win or lose this election for them)

Yes, these are my requirements too!

The red line - the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM - is a gesture of support and apology to Rosie Duffield.

If she thinks he's sincere, I might listen. Might

I'm all for offering golden bridges to those who realise that they got it wrong BUT this ain't that.

Starmer must think we all came down in the last shower if he thinks we can't see what he's doing, here.

My OH is a stalwart of the Grauniad comment section and has been banging the GC drum for years. For his comments to get through moderation, they need to be very carefully worded. Even if his comments aren't outright deleted, they're still targeted by others trotting out TRA bingo fallacies.

He said there's been a bit of a turning point recently, and his comments today managed to receive comparatively good upvotes and other commenters backing him up among the woo, which has basically never happened.

Deeds not words Keir.

Where is your apology to Rosie Duffield? Will you now meet with the women's declaration?

I'll only Believe it when you actually show us you mean bio females and not gender addled males.

I’d also like him to apologise for saying “only women have a cervix isn’t right, it’s something that shouldn’t be said

Concur, and quite apart from wanting to maintain some semblance of women's and children's rights, I wouldn't trust someone who parrots this anti-science anti-biology bunkum to run the NHS.

Men get all the man words and all the female words too

I mean wtf

I won’t believe they are remotely sincere unless and until he

• apologises to Rosie Duffield
• asks Sadiq Khan to reinstate Joan Smith
• meets with Labour women’s declaration.
• invites back all thr women expelled for knowing women don’t have penises

I’d also like him to apologise for saying “only women have a cervix isn’t right, it’s something that shouldn’t be said” - the fucking nerve.

Yes, exactly.

Single SEX exemptions, single sex spaces.

'Safe spaces' is just more Labour woo bollocks.

No, we're not to be allowed any of our own words.