Woman alleges sexual assault by Greater Manchester Police whilst in custody

Jesus what a shit show

I believe her

believe her.
GMP covered up the repeated grooming of teenage girls for years and tried to justify it.
They are my local police force and I wouldn’t trust them ever.

Ah. GMP.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/kate-green-npcc-greater-manchester-police-met-england-b2270687.html

The police present their case, the CPS either agree to prosecute - or not and then it goes to court. Surely you know something as simple as that?

Although I am aware that it's been previously exposed on here that you may not be the police officer you repeatedly claim to be. As Mumsnet regularly remind us,
"not everyone on the internet is who they claim to be".

No response needed. I will not respond to them or fuel any of your attempts to steer this thread into your particular niche obsessions.

MrsOvertonsWindow
Ahh - the Greater Manchester Police - responsible for jailing an innocent man for rape while the real rapist remains at large:

He was originally convicted by a jury, based on eye witness testimony.

Do we ignore eye witness testimony now and solely base rape trails on DNA evidence?

If that's the case - any rapist will have a water tight defence by saying "My DNA is present because we had consensual sex"

I don't think anyone has suggested that 4 female officers stood and watched no. If you read the articles on the story there's many gaps in her 40 hours. First one being in the police van on the way to custody. They also lie saying she has been seen by a doctor, she hasnt. Doesn't see a medical professional until she is released. In the report logs it states she isn't fit for custody more than once.
If they have nothing to hide, show her the footage. Looks to me like there is something and it's being covered up. Which isn't a shock given the recent shit from the police and not reporting there own officers.

RoseslnTheHospital
Are you suggesting that journalists never lie or bend the truth to suite the article.

If you have read the logs - what was the disposal? Was she charged or released on bail?

Ahh - the Greater Manchester Police - responsible for jailing an innocent man for rape while the real rapist remains at large:

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/1684220430607867904?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Yet more police officers displaying a casual acquaintance with the truth, good policing and protecting women from VAWG. There seems to be no end to it - along with their ability to repeatedly defend the indefensible.

3 hours of footage are missing, so no one has watched the full footage apart from GMP.

You are implying that the Sky News producer Liz Lane, who did watch all the provided footage and read the logs, is either lying or deliberately misreporting the content, for reasons that are a mystery to me. The only time that Zayna says she was in hospital and is recorded as being in hospital was after the 40 plus hours being held in the police station, this is also what is in the police logs. Read the article and/or watch the Sky News report, and try doing some listening and thinking.

Have you watched all 40 hours or are you just assuming this from the article?
Was there any spells at hospital during this time frame?

If its part of an investigation the footage won't be released - yes I agree it should have been explained why it is missing - but that could be a reason why its no released.

The video footage was released as part of a subject access request, not for any reasons related to any kind of trial. Any omissions in the data that was asked for should have been noted and explained as to why they weren't providing the information.

Zayna doesn't have a "defence team" because she isn't facing any charges in relation to this incident.

The at least 40 hours in custody is the time covered by the CCTV footage and the logs during which time Zayna was detained at the police station. It doesn't include any time spent at hospital. No explanation, justification or authorisation was given for detaining her for that long.

Honestly, people commenting need to at least read the Sky News article that is linked in the OP to avoid asking questions that are specifically covered in the article and the linked video.

The missing footage could be the section which is under investigation. If it is under investigation, they will not release that part to her or her defence team prior to any trial etc.

The 40 hours in custody - does this include the time she has been at the hospital? We can only hold people for 24 hours without extensions being applied for. The custody clock will stop if she has been at hospital whilst she is in custody.

The effects of cocaine can last a lot longer than 15-30 minutes.

Was she charged with anything or released on bail. I note that that an officer's glasses were knocked off at some stage?

Wow this is horrific

Show us the missing three hours. Ffs.

I believe her.

The police are stalling, trying to figure out who will be the sacrificial lamb, aka One Bad Apple.

But because Zayna has been so brave and de-anonymised herself to spread her story, they're in a pickle.

She's shown that it's an entire rotten barrel, not a lone bad apple.

I believe Zayna.

I believe her.

Zayna is clearly reporting that a crime has been committed against her, but I have no idea how that can proceed anywhere if the perpetrator is a current police officer or officers within the police service that the crime is reported to. How can there be any possibility of GMP investigating any of this properly?

This is horrific. How can an internal investigation possibly be the appropriate course of action in these circumstances? This isn't just about procedure not being followed or someone objecting to the behaviours of a specific officer, even. None of GMP's actions or justifications seem to make much sense. Even if she wasn't sexually assaulted (I think she probably was), she was clearly traumatised as a result of her arrest - unsurprisingly. How can that be ignored? She wasn't treated with dignity or even in a way I'd call safe.

Yep, teaching my daughters not to trust the police too.

I believe her.
What would she gain by lying? It must be completely humiliating to have to go public with what happened,and have people judging and doubting her.

We all know that the police have form for going after women that they perceive to have put them in a bad light,why would she invite that sort of attention?

I've had to have a talk with my teenage daughters about what to do if stopped by the police. It's not something that I thought that,I as a law-abiding,middle class, white woman would ever have to do. But here we are.

I see in an article in the DM they've said

GMP told MailOnline today it had submitted a challenge against the report based on the grounds their right of reply had not been upheld. The force said the statement given to Sky News had been provided over a week ago and was potentially factually incorrect.

This happened in Feb 2021. They made a statement a week ago. In what way is that not a 'right of reply' ?!

Do they actually mean 'we didn't realise you were going to prove we were lying, that's not fair! If we'd known we would have told better lies!'