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Women's world cup again

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Somanycats · 25/07/2023 22:48

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66299441

So is this person a woman? In which case surely it's a complete non story. Or are they a man? And why does the article not make it clear?

'Historic' - the World Cup's first out trans player

There is much discussion to be found about transgender athletes in sport. In Australia and New Zealand, one has been helping drive their country's bid for World Cup glory.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66299441

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CaveMum · 25/07/2023 23:25

Does anyone know the full story on Barbra Banda of Nigeria, playing at the World Cup? I stumbled across this article which sounds very like the Caster Semenya situation but the BBC like to be so vague that it’s difficult to get to the truth of it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/66191557

How Zambia's Banda overcame gender eligibility row

Star Zambian striker Barbra Banda could light up the Women's World Cup despite missing the African qualifiers following a row over her eligibility.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/66191557

PuttingDownRoots · 25/07/2023 23:16

Sounds like quite a lot of sporty girls/women I know...

CorruptedCauldron · 25/07/2023 23:07

Quinn’s not increasing their testosterone levels, so they have no advantage over the regular women. Really, Quinn taking part in women’s football is a non-story. They have a non-binary gender identity and a female sex. The only difference between Quinn and any other woman on the pitch is the pronouns.

dimorphism · 25/07/2023 23:00

Quinn sounds like Quinn has figured out a clever way to get attention and money at the expense of other women athletes.

dimorphism · 25/07/2023 22:59

So either gender doesn't matter in which case, great, the women's world cup is for the female sex class only, no matter what gender they all are (have they all been asked? If not, how transphobic! There could be 100s of different genders!).

Or, gender matters and not sex in which case Quinn should be playing in the nonbinary / transgender world cup. Can't have it both ways.

Quinn is lucky Quinn grew up during a period when girls sports were a thing because they won't be for much longer at this rate.

Plasmodesmata · 25/07/2023 22:57

It was quiet history because Quinn continues to play in the correct sex category and has no unfair advantage over the other players.
Laurel had the media fanfare because Laurel was competing in the incorrect sex category and therefore had an unfair advantage over the women competing. Even though, in the end, Laurel wasn't very good - there was a woman who missed out on her Olympic chance to accommodate Laurel.

Pallisers · 25/07/2023 22:53

Canada's opening fixture - a 1-1 draw with Japan - came several days before transgender woman Laurel Hubbard competed in the weightlifting amid much media fanfare, thus allowing Quinn to make some quiet history.

They are a woman so they made "quiet" history - like no one gives a damn. Laurel Hubbard made loud history with "media fanfare". Because - well men ...

Brave new world that is so completely the way things have always been.

uhOhOP · 25/07/2023 22:53

Didn't read the article, but yeah, this person is a woman. She (I know, sorry...) goes by the mononym Quinn.

smokegetsinyoureyes · 25/07/2023 22:52

Daily mail has the same story including the line "formerly Rebecca Quinn"

Somanycats · 25/07/2023 22:50

I mean I'm pretty sure she is a woman. I just don't understand why 'woman plays on women's football team' is ground breaking news.

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