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Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)

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ACatCalledPushka · 23/07/2023 22:00

Well done to the hotel staff. ‘trans ‘woman’ given key to the unisex changing room instead of the female changing room ‘trans woman’ not happy.

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

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Ohthisisgetttingmad · 23/07/2023 23:28

I've drafted an email to the hotel - let me know if this sounds ok -
Hi, I’m sure you’ve already received a few emails about this and I have no desire to be antagonistic, but please support the staff member that referred a customer to the unisex changing rooms. I am in no way anti- trans, and can sympathize with the complainants issue to a certain degree. It must have been disappointing for them, but seeing as they have themselves admitted they do not “pass” as female I can understand your employees decision. The complainant is not a natal female and it was fair and appropriate that your staff directed them to a unisex space in this instance. We live in complicated times, and I truly believe that directing the complaint to the male changing space would have been disrespectful and unwise, but your staff member acted fairly and appropriately in my opinion by choosing the unisex space. A woman is not defined by her clothes or bearing, it is a simple matter of sex chromosomes. Given that there was a neutral space available ( eg unisex changing rooms) there was no discrimination here, the complainant was directed to the appropriate space.
Thoughts? I just want to support the employee.

Catchasingmewithspiders · 23/07/2023 23:28

So the complainer is basically a terf right?

Because when women complain about womens facilities being made unisex and having to share with men they are called terfs and get threats

So this person wants the same thing women want, womens facilities not unisex. So they are basically a terf.

How wierd no one is shouting at them on social media pointing that out. I just can't pinpoint the difference..

Boiledbeetle · 23/07/2023 23:23

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:05

But maybe beware the IDEs.

😁

Reallybadidea · 23/07/2023 23:23

If skirt = woman then imagine the complaints the hotel are going to get when their newly brainwashed reeducated employee directs everyone wearing trousers to the men's changing room 😱

mrshoho · 23/07/2023 23:20

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SaleOfTwoTitties · 23/07/2023 23:16

Twitter is not #being kind!

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:12

caerdydd12 · 23/07/2023 23:11

Or IEDs lol

BOOM

caerdydd12 · 23/07/2023 23:11

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:05

But maybe beware the IDEs.

Or IEDs lol

DarkDayforMN · 23/07/2023 23:10

god, I hope those messages don’t mean the hotel is actually going to punish the receptionist! Hopefully they were just placating the complainer to get them to shut up and go away.

I’d love for someone to actually ask why they want into the women’s. But of course because of the TWAW lie, if anyone asks these people “Why do you want into the women’s changing room?” they can say “because I’m a lady” and not get laughed at to their face.

If they couldn’t say “because I’m a lady” they’d have to give the real reasons for wanting in there. And they wouldn’t dare even try it.

MysteryBelle · 23/07/2023 23:06

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THIS x1000

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 23:05

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 23/07/2023 23:01

DIE I assume is diversity, inclusion and equality but I've only ever seen it written as DEI.

I've also seen it as EDI. Presumably, each letter should have equal rights to get a go at the front.

But maybe beware the IDEs.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 23/07/2023 23:02

The unisex room should have been the absolutely perfect compromise solution for this scenario.

That this person not just objected but actually took great offence at it tells you all you need to know about motives.

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 23/07/2023 23:01

DIE I assume is diversity, inclusion and equality but I've only ever seen it written as DEI.

I've also seen it as EDI. Presumably, each letter should have equal rights to get a go at the front.

MavisMcMinty · 23/07/2023 23:01

Truemilk · 23/07/2023 22:56

What was wrong with the unisex changing room? Why did this person want the female only one?

It’s not the women’s spaces, it’s the women they want. They want to pretend they’re one of us - I know it’s tragic but harden your hearts, they don’t care about you at all, they want validation. “Here I am, a LAYDEE, getting undressed with all the other laydees and none of them can tell I’m a man because LOOK I’VE GOT A SKIRT ON!”

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 22:59

Diversity Inclusion Equality?

Still not trumped by safeguarding so “Anne” needs to learn that they don’t get to impose themself in female spaces.

caerdydd12 · 23/07/2023 22:57

DIE I assume is diversity, inclusion and equality but I've only ever seen it written as DEI.

SequentialAnalyst · 23/07/2023 22:57

DIE course - what an acronym!
Translation: uppity woman should be sent for Re-Education.

Truemilk · 23/07/2023 22:56

What was wrong with the unisex changing room? Why did this person want the female only one?

MavisMcMinty · 23/07/2023 22:56

Such a shame I can’t see any replies on Twitter any more, think I’d’ve enjoyed them. Poor thing. “Dressed like this” because clothes maketh the man think he’s a woman.

Datun · 23/07/2023 22:56

Well, he's getting a real pasting in the replies.

Seems not being able to ban objectors really shows exactly how many there are.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 23/07/2023 22:55

A DIE course? WTF?? Sounds like something out of the beginning of Lexx.
Good on the Mercure employee for knowing what a woman is and who should access female spaces.

MisschiefMaker · 23/07/2023 22:54

Rightsraptor · 23/07/2023 22:14

Perhaps the Mercure Hotel Sheffield deserve a few messages of thanks.

Good point. I am going to email them a short note to thank them too. We should all do this so hopefully they think twice before they punish the female hotel employee or decide to implement anti-women policies.

That trans woman does not have a right to watch female patrons of the hotel undress. What an entitled piece of shit they are!

This is the hotel's email if anyone wants to do the same:

[email protected]

Clymene · 23/07/2023 22:51

What is a DIE course anyway? It sounds threatening

SabrinaThwaite · 23/07/2023 22:48

It was a female hotel employee apparently - so no surprise that this male person was pointed at the unisex changing rooms and not the women’s.

Apparently this employee needs to be sent on a DIE course to learn how to soothe male egos and ignore safeguarding Hmm

Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)
Boiledbeetle · 23/07/2023 22:44

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Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)
Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)