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Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)

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ACatCalledPushka · 23/07/2023 22:00

Well done to the hotel staff. ‘trans ‘woman’ given key to the unisex changing room instead of the female changing room ‘trans woman’ not happy.

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

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StefanosHill · 02/08/2023 20:25

Datun · 02/08/2023 20:22

God. So he has applied for a GRC, because he thinks it's going to make the law 'on his side'.

A man who frequents websites that fetishise women breastfeeding, and violates teenage girls' changing rooms.

Fucking slow handclap to Kier Starmer who wants to facilitate these men.

Yep. The £5 easy access is horrific.

Datun · 02/08/2023 20:22

meowgender · 02/08/2023 17:53

I see he's deleted most of his social media accounts.

The archives still exist though, e.g.

https://archive.li/INUXS

God. So he has applied for a GRC, because he thinks it's going to make the law 'on his side'.

A man who frequents websites that fetishise women breastfeeding, and violates teenage girls' changing rooms.

Fucking slow handclap to Kier Starmer who wants to facilitate these men.

WallaceinAnderland · 02/08/2023 19:51

I think the 'one bad apple' argument only works if the rest of the barrel are prepared to stand up and say, "This is wrong. We don't support this. We don't want this behaviour in our community."

None of the usual suspects are mentioning it at all on twitter or elsewhere as far as I can see. It's the usual 'nothing to see here - look over there at those nasty bigots...'

Complete radio silence. Says more than what they think it does.

GailBlancheViola · 02/08/2023 19:44

Yes. The whole 'it's just one unfortunate person, don't judge the whole group' line is long since over. It isn't just one, this isthe population we're talking about. These are common, regular features of the group. That women are expected to put up with in their spaces.

We're long since past #nothankyou and into #forgetitmate

Indeed, it is a feature not a bug.

Also yet more proof that it is not the space that is important it is the non consenting humans in that space. If it was just a case of I just want to pee/get changed then a Unisex space would be perfectly acceptable, everyone gets what they want, but that is not what they want, what they want is access to the female space and the females in it and they don't give a flying fuck how the females in that space feel. Usual misogynistic, selfish bollocks.

MavisMcMinty · 02/08/2023 19:14

All he wanted was to steal!

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 18:37

Froodwithatowel · 02/08/2023 18:35

The trouble is at this point, it's like the mythical fully transitioned, lovely and slightly fraudulent male accountant.... (seen occasionally gamboling in the mists on the highlands) - the one they kept mentioning as the one who should be in a women's prison. It's just a myth.

And it's being leaned on to try and cling to women's sympathy long enough to abuse them a bit longer.

They also completely miss the fact that an accountant who is prepared to swindle his boss/clients is also likely not to give a shit about the boundaries of women!

Froodwithatowel · 02/08/2023 18:35

MavisMcMinty · 02/08/2023 17:44

Exactly! So mis-used as an expression. It means it just takes one bad apple to spoil the rest, but the police and others seem to think as long as you can still rummage around and pull out the occasional undamaged apple there’s no problem, carry on.

The trouble is at this point, it's like the mythical fully transitioned, lovely and slightly fraudulent male accountant.... (seen occasionally gamboling in the mists on the highlands) - the one they kept mentioning as the one who should be in a women's prison. It's just a myth.

And it's being leaned on to try and cling to women's sympathy long enough to abuse them a bit longer.

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 18:20

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/08/2023 18:09

yup

middle aged men larping as women are creepy

we used to be allowed to know that. do you think we're allowed to know it again yet?

Well it's certainly getting harder for the other side of the argument to say that never happens!

Thanks Anne.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/08/2023 18:09

Froodwithatowel · 02/08/2023 16:53

Yes. The whole 'it's just one unfortunate person, don't judge the whole group' line is long since over. It isn't just one, this is the population we're talking about. These are common, regular features of the group. That women are expected to put up with in their spaces.

We're long since past #nothankyou and into #forgetitmate

yup

middle aged men larping as women are creepy

we used to be allowed to know that. do you think we're allowed to know it again yet?

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 17:59

MavisMcMinty · 02/08/2023 17:44

Exactly! So mis-used as an expression. It means it just takes one bad apple to spoil the rest, but the police and others seem to think as long as you can still rummage around and pull out the occasional undamaged apple there’s no problem, carry on.

Bizarrely I really crave an Apple right now!

Hepwo · 02/08/2023 17:58

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 02/08/2023 16:46

This thread made me think of Ginny too, almost sounded like the same person. I hope the OP of that thread is okay.

Absolutely!

TW in EDI training: we just want to live our lives.

Women: you do know we can see the internet?

meowgender · 02/08/2023 17:53

I see he's deleted most of his social media accounts.

The archives still exist though, e.g.

https://archive.li/INUXS

Welcome to nginx

https://archive.li/INUXS

MavisMcMinty · 02/08/2023 17:44

Exactly! So mis-used as an expression. It means it just takes one bad apple to spoil the rest, but the police and others seem to think as long as you can still rummage around and pull out the occasional undamaged apple there’s no problem, carry on.

Boiledbeetle · 02/08/2023 17:34

Well it may have been just the one rotten apple here and there at the beginning, but as we all know you leave rotting fruit in with the rest and soon the whole lot is rotting.

Instead of weeding out the rotten apples they just kept inviting more rotten apples to jump into the barrel.

Motorina · 02/08/2023 17:21

I think the 'one bad apple' argument only works if the rest of the barrel are prepared to stand up and say, "This is wrong. We don't support this. We don't want this behaviour in our community."

As RMW's twitter comments make clear, the instinct instead is to excuse and minimise the bad apple's conduct.

It's not a bug. It's a feature.

Froodwithatowel · 02/08/2023 16:53

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 02/08/2023 16:46

This thread made me think of Ginny too, almost sounded like the same person. I hope the OP of that thread is okay.

Yes. The whole 'it's just one unfortunate person, don't judge the whole group' line is long since over. It isn't just one, this is the population we're talking about. These are common, regular features of the group. That women are expected to put up with in their spaces.

We're long since past #nothankyou and into #forgetitmate

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 02/08/2023 16:46

This thread made me think of Ginny too, almost sounded like the same person. I hope the OP of that thread is okay.

DOBARDAN · 02/08/2023 16:45

So now all swimming officials (including Anne of course) have been told not to do a walk-through of the female changing room areas, but could Anne still be allowed to use the female toilets which are situated within the changing areas?

DeanElderberry · 02/08/2023 16:10

I've been comparing the woman who handed over the key to the unisex facilities to Ginny's colleague. I fear that she may have felt just as upset and confused over the situation, and although many people have gone out of their way to congratulate her and her employers, she might well have had a truly dreadful few days after the incident itself and the online abuse from Anne.

SequentialAnalyst · 02/08/2023 16:08

One girl is flashed on one train, and it's like a vaccination. As a result many girls don't use many trains.

I had no choice but to travel to school by train, and it was the only real way to get up to Town from my S London suburb. I had a number of encounters Hmm shall we say. Including a couple where bystanders refused to help Angry

Posh school, scholarship girl. Strict uniform rules included black stockings. (Held up with suspenders, as for every other woman and girl. Later in the 60s tights replaced stockings as the default hosiery.)

BezMills · 02/08/2023 16:00

Ginny! I wonder how that all panned out in the end. I really felt for the OP and her colleagues. Well, almost all of her colleagues.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 02/08/2023 15:56

Remember the thread on here about “Ginny”?

similar vibes

Datun · 02/08/2023 15:09

On July 31, X user @GenderReceiptsshared the discovery that Coombes’ Medium account was following a “nymphomaniac” blog titled Lola Down.

Alarmingly, the account hosts erotic stories featuring photos of mothers breast feeding their babies. The photos are presented in a pornographic context and appear to be intended to be used for sexual gratification...

... The piece is accompanied by over one dozen images of mothers breastfeeding their babies, most of which appear to have been innocent photos used without the consent of the individual behind them.

None of the photographs censor the faces or nude bodies of the women or children.

On June 11, Coombes wrote about receiving a bra fitting, boasting “I thought I was a 38A, I was shocked to walk out with a 36D.”

Ugh ugh ugh. Are there any trans identified men who aren't like this???

I actually can't think of even one.

SamW98 · 02/08/2023 15:03

Well Anne don’t be happy with the pronouns used in that article. But tbh I don’t think Anne will be happy about very much at the moment