Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)

From what I have read on previous threads, I think there is a lot of support from members of this board for third spaces being available in addition to single sex spaces.
Hopefully one day the T in the LGBT will realise that this is the only logical way forward and get behind a campaign for them to be provided. Unfortunately at the moment the loudest voices are like Anne's, shutting down any idea of third spaces because it's "dehumanising". Thankfully we seem to be edging closer to the fact that they have no argument to prop up their assertions. Anne's own tweets seem to be doing a great job of showing the real motivation behind Anne refusing to use them.

It is also interesting to note that we don’t have the usual posters here supporting Coombes. Why is that?

Just adding to your post MrsO.

Shall we also remember that Riley was effectively forced to be kept in a locked room for 3 hours while violent protestors kicked the door and screamed at her because she highlighted that allowing Thomas to compete was unfair and that the changing room situation was abusive to women.

“A reminder of where this can lead”

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/07/27/lia-thomas-teammate-paula-scanlan-talks-trauma-sharing-locker-room/

Paula Scanlon details where it can lead. A sex assault survivor having to change 18 times a week in front of an adult male. And ‘re-education’ if she or any woman complained or avoided doing so.

This is called progress.

@NicCageisnotNickCave is this tweet getting much interaction?
I'm not on Twitter but I'm almost curious enough to sign up and take a peek.

Excellent coverage - and a real turn around. Swimming was captured in the early days with numerous policies insisting that men claiming to be women must be allowed access to women and girls in changing rooms

It's another sign that the torrent of predatory men spying on / perving on women & girls in changing rooms has forced swimming to ignore the trans whingeing and reinstate single sex changing rooms.

A reminder of where this can lead - the wonderful Riley Gaines talking about how young women swimmers in the States were forced to attend compulsory LGBT "training" when they objected to sharing changing rooms with a man (Lia Thomas). This university sponsored "grooming" of these young women aimed at removing their boundaries is where this country was heading until very recently:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W4yGaj6G9V4

In fact, if I recall correctly, he also bragged about officiating and being in the changing rooms, whilst young female competitors were changing.

He disgusts me.

So, in this specific case, he was "only" walking through and "only" using the women's toilets. In the Mercure Hotel he demanded access to the women's changing rooms and had the woman who gave him the unisex key sent for indoctrination.

On this thread, one of the links to his witterings has him bragging about changing in the women's changing rooms and dismissing "Myra's" fears and concerns.

Why is the swimming authority trying to minimise his behaviour? It's serial behaviour, not a minor one off.

Not so very long ago, we'd call men who wanted to and did go and look at young girls something other than trans.

This person seems to be AGP. Judges are very visible to everyone in attendance at swimming events. I expect that they like that performance element.

Surprised he hadn’t got his TQ network at work to campaign for paid leave for volunteering days.

I love the outrage that he has given up 5 days of his annual leave in order to perve at women and young girls.

Bless.

That Coombes self published that crap themselves shows that this is a male individual that revels in their own status of victimhood.

It is abundantly clear now. Before it could have been just a guess, now, now they have absolutely made their motivation within that ideological movement clear.

Spotted this in the Mail article

'This is the first time anyone IRL (in real life) has treated me as if I am not a woman... decent people accept the rule of self identity. If in doubt then find a polite way to ask, don't assume'.

How about: decent people accept that girls and women have a right to the privacy and dignity of single-sex female-only spaces when in a state of undress. What sort of people don’t accept that rule in real life?

And the women you are competing against when you swim...

“Who is looking at me and thinking nasty thoughts about me”

Does he want a list? OK

women at your swimming club who you are bullying to get into their changing room

staff at a spa who you bullied to get into the womens changing room and demanded they got training when they were already doing their job perfectly

teenage girls who don’t want you looking at their bodies

parents of teenage girls who don’t want you looking at them changing

random women off the internet who don’t want men in their single sex spaces

I have a friend who is male to female transexual with a gender recognition certificate and many years of therapy behind him. He accepts fully that he's male. He would never go in a woman's toilet or changing room, volunteer with the Girl Guides or join the Women's Institute.

Compare that with Anna Combes and others loudly trying to access women at all costs.

Just came on to say that @BonfireLady . All
They have mentioned is the walk through. What about Anne using the female toilet? What about Anne competing in women's races?

BS and the pool need to come out and say their policy is single sex spaces and races.

I couldn't care less what clothing people choose to wear and I think unisex changing facilities are a good idea in many circumstances (I have an adult dsd who is learning disabled and needs significant assistance yet the pool only has one disabled/family changing room which can be occupied by anyone needing the babychange, sessions are only an hour, if im not there it's pretty awkward for dp, he's missed time waiting for access to find it's a mum feeding in there for instance.

“British Swimming confirmed that Ms Coombes used the changing rooms as a walkthrough route at the competition yesterday and was not using it as a changing facility so no separate area was needed."

What that makes very clear is that: whatever safeguards are put in place by organisations responsible for protecting the privacy, dignity, and safety of girls and women, those motivated to see girls and women in a state of undress will search out ways around those safeguards.

Imagine the thrill for that official of being able to randomly barge into the female changing rooms at will without warning, advance notice or discussion.

And now we’ve got “poor me, people might be thinking I’m an old perve for haunting the girls changing room”.

This statement is great.

Now a journalist needs to ask all 3 party leaders if Anne Coombes is a woman or a "dirty old man perving at [their] little girls in the changing rooms".

That should get some headlines and bring it out in the open.

I do not understand why it took a brave MNer (and thank you!!) to point out that this was happening! Where were the adult officials supervising?

Did the Swimming organisation not even think this through? If this individual forces their ‘right’ to use female single sex spaces, of fucking course they were going to be using the same space as the girls!!

Honestly, I sometimes think these organisations adopt a stonewall policy without using critical thinking to evaluate all the ramifications…. Like an adequate safeguarding policy should be doing. This is just showing the lapses in safeguarding that are still happening in 2023.

Great to see it in the news. Well done indeed, swimming mums of Mumsnet 👏👏

From the article (my highlight in bold):

"British Swimming confirmed that Ms Coombes used the changing rooms as a walkthrough route at the competition yesterday and was not using it as a changing facility so no separate area was needed."

Is this an implicit admission that had the official wanted to get changed, a separate facility would have been required?

Although on the flip side, it says the official used the toilets in the women's changing rooms as well as using it as a walkthrough.

The response from British Swimming needs picking apart a little more.

I’ve just looked this person up on the swimming rankings. This person is also swimming in masters comps as a female.

From Coombes’ Mastadon.

It’s very easy to avoid such accusations, Anne - just stay out of single sex spaces, services and sports designated for female people.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph-saturday/20230729/281921662546884

Telegraph version (via Press Reader)