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Tye Guilty Feminist Podcast

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CappucinoAndCornetto · 23/07/2023 07:15

I was heartened to see they were finally addressing the topic.... then I listened to it 🙈

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Kw6mvm4vKIPYj1Zy6jcoy?si=Hmsix_DOS42Sn0YPrd9KQA

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PistachioGelato · 24/07/2023 17:16

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 24/07/2023 12:45

The irony is not lost on me that one of DFW’s stand up shows was about leaving a “cult” (JW) and yet here she is championing another.

Right?! 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

EllaMenopee · 24/07/2023 13:24

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 24/07/2023 11:22

She is, as far as I know. Think Sofie Hagen dropped out after the first couple of series? I think that’s about when I stopped listening because I had been terfinated by then.

Thanks. I just looked at the episode notes of the one linked above and didn't see her name and wondered if she was still around. I too think she's an interesting and intelligent speaker about her life on JW and its impacts, so also find it frustrating that she doesn't see the parallels.

Lottapianos · 24/07/2023 12:50

'The irony is not lost on me that one of DFW’s stand up shows was about leaving a “cult” (JW) and yet here she is championing another.'

Oh gosh, I had heard the cult story but never made the link until now 🤦🏻‍♂️ I really want to like DFW - when I've seen her interviewed about other stuff, she seems smart and brave and assertive but she's such an utter disappointment when it comes to actually giving a shit about women as opposed to going for the woke points

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 24/07/2023 12:45

The irony is not lost on me that one of DFW’s stand up shows was about leaving a “cult” (JW) and yet here she is championing another.

Weefreetiffany · 24/07/2023 12:20

I used to enjoy it, it was very funny and gave space to new female comedians. They had a big thing about the strengths of diversity that I appreciated. But I stopped listening a few years ago as it became a bit tedious, the “feminists” lacked agency and critical thinking skills, especially DFW (who I have quite a soft spot for) very much assuming they were in the wrong for not knowing everything, offering themselves up for reeducation from a narrow academic lens and focusing on “being kind” that I felt was quite dangerous. Quite biased against actual women’s issues that needed nuanced discussion unless it was something like FGM that everyone agrees is awful. Vulnerable women not having access to toilets because they don’t want to be in proximity to individuals with penises would have been met with an eye roll and the advice to “woman up and get on with it” that didn’t sit right with me so I stopped listening. If it could have been just a little more balanced and addressed uncomfortable topics without acting like we’re monsters for not going along with being shamed into being kind I would still be listening.

Lottapianos · 24/07/2023 11:49

'Went off it after I saw it live and one of the guest “comedians” sang a song which had a line comparing JK Rowling to Vladimir Putin.'

Oh how fucking hilarious 🙄 they're a bunch of smug muppets

MinnieMountain · 24/07/2023 11:36

I used to listen to it. Went off it after I saw it live and one of the guest “comedians” sang a song which had a line comparing JK Rowling to Vladimir Putin.

ParadiseLaundry · 24/07/2023 11:31

CappucinoAndCornetto · 23/07/2023 08:27

Listened to the first FIVE minutes and heard the following...

Apparently GC feminism is a far right thing, the transwoman would literally have committed suicide if women hadn't let TW into their bathrooms and that they would give all your husbands a blowjob if they had to go into male toilets.

Oh they also said that GC women haven't even thought of asking for a third space so TW don't get raped in the mens & have to commit suicide!

Farcical nonsense if it wasn't so fucking prevalent. How DARE they call this a feminist podcast?!

Well I guess you can be anything as long as you identify as it.

I don't see them as feminists. For-men-ists maybe 🤔

Redshoeblueshoe · 24/07/2023 11:30

Terfinated - great word. I have started asking men have they ever seen a TW in the men's toilets. Not a single one has. Strange that . . .

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 24/07/2023 11:22

EllaMenopee · 24/07/2023 11:19

I listened in the early years but as other say, it very quickly turned what about the menz and I stopped. Is Deborah Frances White no longer hosting it?

She is, as far as I know. Think Sofie Hagen dropped out after the first couple of series? I think that’s about when I stopped listening because I had been terfinated by then.

EllaMenopee · 24/07/2023 11:19

I listened in the early years but as other say, it very quickly turned what about the menz and I stopped. Is Deborah Frances White no longer hosting it?

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 24/07/2023 11:18

I used to love it. I really liked how it developed and became more nuanced and diverse. It's the first place I heard a lot of very decent comedians. I turned off the episode with the trans woman researcher because I didn't think he was particularly interesting and just sounded bored. The tipping point for me was the Edinburgh rape crisis thing. After seeing their post on twitter about not tolerating hate I just hit unfollow and unsubscribe. The episode with Joan and Jerricha was v v funny.

SidewaysOtter · 24/07/2023 11:11

(Just to clarify, I didn't drink anything at the interval because I was driving!)

SidewaysOtter · 24/07/2023 11:09

@SirCharlesRainier I think it was something to do with body positivity. TBH, I can remember very little about what she said (other than it just not being funny) because every fibre of me wanted to go home. If I hadn't been giving a lift to others I'd have left at the interval!

SirCharlesRainier · 24/07/2023 09:58

SidewaysOtter · 23/07/2023 22:51

I remember Sofie Hagen starting this podcast

Well that tells me all I need to know. I had the misfortune to see Hagen a few years ago and fuck me, I’ve had more fun at a smear test. The absolute low point - and trust me, there were many - was when she paraded around stage in her very feminine lingerie having told us all, at length, that she was non-binary. Needy, attention-seeking nonsense at its worst.

There wasn’t enough alcohol in the interval bar to deal with that shit. Thankfully the warm up act was excellent, although he did just highlight how fucking awful Hagen was.

Yes, I am still pissed off that I paid to see this, does it show?

@SidewaysOtter what was the context of her parading around in lingerie, if I may ask? I thought she was (supposedly) a stand-up comedian?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/07/2023 09:22

It's toothless feminism for people who don't really understand what the purpose of feminism is.

SidewaysOtter · 23/07/2023 22:51

I remember Sofie Hagen starting this podcast

Well that tells me all I need to know. I had the misfortune to see Hagen a few years ago and fuck me, I’ve had more fun at a smear test. The absolute low point - and trust me, there were many - was when she paraded around stage in her very feminine lingerie having told us all, at length, that she was non-binary. Needy, attention-seeking nonsense at its worst.

There wasn’t enough alcohol in the interval bar to deal with that shit. Thankfully the warm up act was excellent, although he did just highlight how fucking awful Hagen was.

Yes, I am still pissed off that I paid to see this, does it show?

CappucinoAndCornetto · 23/07/2023 21:58

TheGreatATuin · 23/07/2023 15:46

It's pretty much what it would look like if Carrie Bradshaw decided to dip her toes into feminism as this week's fashion trend.

😂

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TheGreatATuin · 23/07/2023 15:46

It's pretty much what it would look like if Carrie Bradshaw decided to dip her toes into feminism as this week's fashion trend.

TheGreatATuin · 23/07/2023 15:45

I haven't listened to that in years. Even before I became aware of all the terfy issues, I remember trying an episode and finding it quite ridiculous.
Iirc it was all being about making a statement as a feminist by wearing jeans instead of skirts, and eating dinner on your own in a restaurant. All things that I'd been doing for years, quite unaware that it was a big deal to do as a woman. 🙄
Very, very shallow.

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Lottapianos · 23/07/2023 15:12

'Thank god for Beira’s place.'

I was just thinking about Beira's Place the other day and what a marvellous thing it is that JKR has done. Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. How ironic that joke feminists like the Guilty Feminist lot think she's the devil incarnate. She gives a hell of a lot more of a shit about women than they ever have

CappucinoAndCornetto · 23/07/2023 14:00

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 23/07/2023 10:23

I wonder what their audience numbers are? I can hear sexist nonsense in all sorts of places so I don't need to listen to their podcast to get it (so I won't!)

It worries me that young, impressionable women will think this is feminism

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CappucinoAndCornetto · 23/07/2023 13:58

BillyBraggisnotmylover · 23/07/2023 12:59

I used to listen to this and found it quite entertaining, and they had some excellent guests in the early days. Nimco Ali talking about FGM sticks in the mind. But I remember an episode where they had a TW who had been held at an airport - I can’t remember their name - who spoke over all the female guests and was intensely irritating. And then they kept bringing them back. Then all the hosts were full TWAW and I gave up.

Oddly a sketch by Sofie Hagen popped up on my social media yesterday about pronouns that presented pronouns like a big “gotcha” game - not a life or death thing like we keep being told. Wish they’d make their minds up.

I quite like Sofie H

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BillyBraggisnotmylover · 23/07/2023 12:59

I used to listen to this and found it quite entertaining, and they had some excellent guests in the early days. Nimco Ali talking about FGM sticks in the mind. But I remember an episode where they had a TW who had been held at an airport - I can’t remember their name - who spoke over all the female guests and was intensely irritating. And then they kept bringing them back. Then all the hosts were full TWAW and I gave up.

Oddly a sketch by Sofie Hagen popped up on my social media yesterday about pronouns that presented pronouns like a big “gotcha” game - not a life or death thing like we keep being told. Wish they’d make their minds up.