Beth Rigby interviews Iain Anderson

Apparently, there is legislation..did anyone know this before tonight?

And what is this Equalities Act? Its a very subtle but consistent error... wonder what that's all about.

also did anyone else notice the business pitch at the beginning when discussing gay marrige legislation... when he said 'yes, and many politicians thought this was the highwatermark or lgbt rights, but no... '

what he meant was... KEEP THAT FUNDING ROLLING IN

and is the crux of how Stonewall has become the organisation it has.

I was to busy telling him to fuck off

Now however having read you're post yeah, this man????? What the fuck!

did anyone else watch that and think 'This man .... this man.... THIS is the man who is the chair of the organisation that is socially engineering every major institute in our country. THIS MAN .''

I didn't get the impression she was on our side as in one of us. She was doing what journalists should have been doing all along. Sometimes she was a bit unclear eg when talking about the single sex exceptions.

She should of asked him where he got the 4% figure. But she still did really brilliantly.

I wonder if people are beginning to realise why they spent years going "no debate" yet?

I think he knows too. And that's why he struggled so much.

Everything about him showed how deeply uncomfortable he was getting as that interview progressed! That smile😱

She certainly came across that way, but I don't think we can or should make any assumptions about that. She's a professional and it's her job to challenge. She did it very well!

I recommend everyone watch this. I can't quite believe what I saw.
She did really well.
I missed the beginning but he could not express his or stonewall's position on anything at all. He had no way of making it sound sensible and good when he was actually asked the direct questions, using non genderist language and concepts, and so he floundered, waffled and sweated. Relying on very general "I want everyone to be cared for..." bollox. Avoiding answering every question.
This is what happens when you refuse to discuss it for years.

If Stonewall weren't so dangerously powerful that would be funny.
Incoherent, evasive, unclear, rambling. An embarrassing display of an ideology based on fantasy and enforced by bullying.

That's all they've got.

I'm so pleased to see Beth is on our side. She's brilliant

Bloody hell, Beth was amazing and it was a delight to watch Iain squirm.

He showed a complete disregard for women, including lesbians who he claims to represent. Fucker.

He knows. He absolutely knows that stonewall have lost their way. I suspect after that interview that Nancy Kelley might have been asked to go. But then again, there is no where for Stonewall to go at this time. It has backed itself into a corner and been caught lying and twisting and coercing.

I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again.
This is all they have.

This floundering waffle is the sum of their convictions. Pretending they're not really saying the thing they're saying (because we can see how misogynist and homophobic it is).

@Rightsraptor the bloody state of him. He couldn't give a straight answer if his life depended on it.

Just seen this on Twitter

Beth Rigby is always excellent imo.

What a bunch of non answers. After years of this and all he can talk about is how the way it's discussed isn't very helpful.
No shit when you can't answer a single question without contradicting yourself. We're all supposed to sit and accept that, are we? For years on end, the same old weasel phrases?

Do better. Demand better.

Oh I had my right fist in a ball and was punching the air in the general direction of his face, @Boiledbeetle.

What a disingenuous little worm. Single sex spaces he called safe spaces, he fudged every question, he couldn't stop looking at that Lisa Thomas podium photo whilst talking incoherently.

The sweat on his top lip said it all!

I may have said "oh fuck off" quite a few times.

That was brilliant, Beth really asked some great questions. He was so sweaty 😂

Also it's the EQUALITY act ffs. Get the right word.

LOL!

India Willoughby@IndiaWilloughby
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52sDon’t know what to say. Stonewall are willing to talk with the LGB Alliance ⁦@iainwanderson⁩ ? A trans hate group. This sounds like a retreat. The optics are terrible. There is no compromise on trans rights. We’re not here to barter

his glasses seemed to steam up at one point!
he did concede some points but reverted to everyone should feel safe etc
I thought Beth could have had an answer re. Sport. Open categories are a thing now in quite a few sports for men / trans women and trans men too on testosterone and they are the answer. Beth doesn’t seem aware of this

I can barely watch it. Can't believe he used the cowardly "we all know what a woman is" that's been reeled off hundreds of times (again, by politicians, like Jo Swinson) as if it's a clever answer.

No, Iain, I have literally no idea what you think a woman is. A person of either sex with a set of feelings that you won't even attempt to define?