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It's always taken out of context, isn't it?
Discussing about how boys have been viewed artistically and historically from the dominantly male gaze is a world apart to personally 'expressing essentially pererastic views'.
I'm so tired of this.
Criticise Greer if you like, but do it in good faith on what she was clearly trying to say, not on what you can take out of context and twist in bad faith. Have some integrity ffs.

I'm amazed that Lloyd Russell-Moyle has never received any sanction fro labour despite his (checks notes) open aggression, intimidation of Miriam Cates in the Commons, sharing a platform with an criminal repeatedly threatening VAWG and countless other anti social behaviours. It's amazing who gets to be an MP in the labour party these days 😮

He made that remark as a student 5 years ago, when nearly every institution was captured, including the Conservative party.

Do you have any more recent evidence?

@PlanetJanette is talking about an art history book Greer wrote twenty years ago.

To give the full quote, which @PlanetJanette has so carefully clipped, I've copied this from Wikipedia:

"In the book's opening pages, Greer writes: "Most people have accepted without question that women are treated as sex objects, viewed principally as body, with a primary duty to attract male attention. Though this is clearly true, it is also true that women are at the same time programmed for failure in their duty of attraction, because boys do it better. This is not good news for men, because a boy is a boy for only a very brief space. He has to be old enough to be capable of sexual response but not yet old enough to shave. This window of opportunity is not only narrow, it is mostly illegal. The male human is beautiful when his cheeks are still smooth, his body hairless, his head full-maned, his eyes clear, his manner shy and his belly flat."

Anyone who knows anything about Classical Greek and Roman art knows that it's full of boys and young men.

I think these Amazon reviews sum the book up quite well:

"study of the changing depiction of boys and young men throughout the history of art, including cupids, archangels and frightened little boys in armour."

and

"Germain Greer courts controversy knowingly. If you get offended by what she writes you are missing the point. The allegations against her in writing this as an advocation of paedophilia are totally stupid. That is, unless you get turned on by the old masters. There is no titillation here unless you enjoy the raunchier side of Greek myth. For me this book was interesting while she was setting up her argument but rapidly became repetitive as Greer rolled out example upon example of how boys are portrayed in art throughout history. Apart from all the pictures Greer's argument stales in later chapters and she resorts to endless retellings of how boys are 'used' in myth/legend and folklore which becomes a bit tiring. However the pictures and the fact the Germaine is a goddess carries this book into the 'good' category."

Not the first book she wrote on art, I think that would be "The Obstacle Race". It's often forgotten that Greer was a Professor of English, she taught at the University of Warwick, for heavens sake! I think I might even have one of her books on Shakespeare on my shelves.

I have never got over Lisa Nandy championing trans rapists in women’s prison,
“I believe fundamentally in people’s right to self ID… so I think that crimes that are recorded should be recorded as that person wishes.”“You asked about whether trans people should be in women’s or men’s prisons. I think trans women are woman and trans men are men. So I think they should be accommodated in the prison of their choosing.”Said, I think at a hustings meeting for her to be party leader and cheered and clapped by most of the audience. They are just recruiting more of the same. Having voted for them all my life, I haven’t voted Labour since.

Well the case against them by the OP is that they don’t like Germaine Greer.

So I would think that Germaine Greer expressing essentially pererastic views is pretty relevant to whether we should negatively judge anyone for opposing her.

No idea, what has this to do with the people the LP are putting in for local by elections?

Just imagine for a second that a trans person said what Greer said.

How do you think it would be received on here?

Getting seriously pissed off with Labour. First Clive Lewis who is not my no (I’m Norwich North) but his supporting open child abuse and very gleefully caused me to cancel my membership.

I’ve voted Labour since I could vote, have campaigned the last 2 elections. Have had such a strong bond with them for years and now feel politically homeless. I cannot support them while they’re throwing women under the bus to look good on Twitter. Idiots the lot of them.

I think that was from her book simply titled The Boy. It certainly doesn't invalidate her views on anything else.

Greer has said many outrageous things in her career, for sure, but I would like a citation, if possible, with the date, please.

Germaine Greer who talks about the ideally attractive boy being "old enough to be capable of sexual response but not yet old enough to shave. This window of opportunity is not only narrow, it is mostly illegal. The male human is beautiful when his cheeks are still smooth, his body hairless, his head full-maned, his eyes clear, his manner shy and his belly flat."

I'm not sure having candidates who are critical of GG is a bad thing.

Anti-semitism Starmer seems to be trying to deal with, but LGBTQ misogyny- fill your boots. Does he not get it, or does he not care?

How depressing, and frightening too.

I’m not voting Labour until they work out what a woman is.