Was I just scoped out to see if I'm GC?

The disabled toilets are specifically laid out to accomodate a wheelchair. So must be accessible on the ground floor (or lift), have properly dimensioned doors, enough floorspace for thw wheelchair to turn. Enough space on at least one side of the toilet for the person to move from the wheelchair to the toilet. A safety cord. A specially made sink with specially made tap to be able to reach and use whilst sitting in a wheelchair.

I don’t see how your skin-colour has anything to do with a toilet that accomodates these needs.

Because they require much more space than your average bog and also are self contained with a wash basin they are for both sexes.

How do you find that such an accomodation has anything to do with centering white (peach coloured skin) able bodied women?

My point is that the craze for turning blocks into ‘gender neutral’ (mix sex) toilets with their full height doors, means there’s now lots of vulnerable people that are less safe, if they had a medical emergency behind the toilet door. When you have single sex toilet blocks with the door gaps there is a degree of visibility for safety. Single sex toilet blocks should be retained.

What's your point?

Mine is that single sex bathrooms should be maintained and that unisex disabled bathrooms are not comparable because of their additional privacy.

I doubt your point is that your daughter cannot use the disabled facilities but would be much safer in cubicle-style bathrooms despite them being frequented by men.

Toilets are places where you make yourself quite vulnerable. This is particularly true with cubicle doors which do not always cover you from floor to ceiling (or even left to right) and sometimes do not lock etc correctly.
Lots of vulnerable disabled people are much safer in toilets with cubicle doors with gaps. Anyone collapsing on the loo needs to to visible. My Dd isn’t allowed to use the disabled loo at school for this reason.

The things you learn here! :o)

People have asked which film/TV mention JKR. A film that mentioned JKR was The Lovebirds (which btw was really enjoyable).

And last night JKR was mentioned in glowing terms in Ted Lasso. She's a cultural lightening rod, so we look at mention of her as a signal. One of the script writers is a TERF.

There have been others.

I was watching a Netflix drama and one of the female characters said to the other (in their workplace) she was going upstairs to use the ladies as one of the male characters left the unisex loos in a state. It was plot-led, as it meant she went to the toilet on her own, but such heresy made my ears prick up.

I want that sash.

for the name change AND the sash 🌹

Name change as this is totally outing. In my organisation we're at home on Teams some days and in the office on others. We aren't allowed a virtual background and people put a lot of effort into having unrealistically tidy bookshelves etc behind them. I have a deliberately cluttered set of shelves with this suffragette sash hanging there.

The jewellery is beautiful but I fear too subtle.

I’ve just invested in a suffragette pin. Let’s see how many geranium buttholes I see.

I was running my club at school yesterday and some of the kids were over excited as it’s so close to school holidays. I sat one boy on one side of the room and one in the other. They quipped, “You can’t do that miss, it’s segregation” to which I replied, “Segregation isn’t always a bad thing.” Two girls at the back stood up and called out “Yes! Exactly miss, we’ve been saying that!”

I’m very hopeful they weren’t actually talking about my behaviour management techniques. I replied, “We segregate foxes from chickens, don’t we?”, which I hope carried on the secret conversation (if we were having one).

I have sent the link to DH. I don't expect to be disappointed. It is my birthday in the next month.

Yes this is the sort of thing, an investment piece I will need to sell a kidney for I think!

I'm planning to get one one day.

God, it was bad enough working out etiquette on dating and office flirting back in the day. Now we've gotta also think twice about pointing to which toilet.

I wonder if they have these problems in the Ukraine right now?

I also suspect and hope it's Jarvis 🤞

Oh wow they are actually antique. I thought they might be copies. How beautiful. What treasure. Crikey, my credit card is twitching!

Yes this is the sort of thing, an investment piece I will need to sell a kidney for I think!

some mixed sex toilets have urinals in them
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I spent 3 consecutive New Year’s Eves in the early 90s at Billy Bragg concerts - 2 of them featuring the gorgeous much-missed Kirsty MacColl. I loved him, but he’s become a bit of a knob lately.

Rest assured it was not Billy Fucking Bragg - I could never stand him - all that worthiness is just painful. And his singing is pure torture.

Really ? I think that black women and children are just as much at risk from males in women’s safe spaces .

Many black elderly and disabled women and girls don’t want to be forced to have intimate care from males.

If anything, black communities in the USA have been much more vociferous in defending their children’s rights in education.

Muslim women ( who are mostly Asian ) have huge concerns about their right to privacy and dignity in shop or sports changing rooms and showers.

Many of the woman athletes missing out medals and sport scholarships are BAME.

So no, it’s not all about white able bodied women . Who BTW are still people with human rights, despite some people’s attempts to suggest otherwise .

He was my thought too

Hoping for this too! 🤞

Oh wow!

Maybe we need to restart this suffragette tradition (and invest in a bit of wearable gold in case we are banned from banking!)

Fair comment. A lot of feminists center the needs of white able bodied women yet believe they stand for women as a whole.

Now you are talking out of your arse. I have never heard feminists refer to women's skin colour, unless it's that Rachel woman who thought she was black.